Module:PopulationFromWikidata/doc - Revision history

Samwilson: /* Step 2. Check which population claims match the Infobox Australian place type value */ links

2025-05-12T01:39:01Z

Step 2. Check which population claims match the Infobox Australian place type value: links

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	==== Step 2. Check which population claims match the Infobox Australian place ''type'' value ====		==== Step 2. Check which population claims match the Infobox Australian place ''type'' value ====
	The next part of the module separates the valid population claims into those which have ''applies to part'' values (defined ABS geography types) that match the Infobox ''type'' and those that don't.		The next part of the module separates the valid population claims into those which have ''applies to part'' values (defined ABS geography types) that match the Infobox ''type'' and those that don't.
⚫	For the Infobox types that can map to multiple ABS geography types (eg. ''type~~'' =~~ town), the most common mapping is considered a match initially and the other mappings are considered later in the module if the first preference isn't available. For example, ''type~~'' =~~ town is matched to ~~Urban Centres and Localities~~ (UCL) as a first preference, but also returns population values for ~~Suburbs and Localities~~ (SAL) and ~~Indigenous Locations~~ (ILOC) instead, if they exist.

		⚫	For the Infobox types that can map to multiple ABS geography types (eg. {{para\|type\|town}}), the most common mapping is considered a match initially and the other mappings are considered later in the module if the first preference isn't available. For example, {{para\|type\|town}} is matched to {{Q\|33127891}} (UCL) as a first preference, but also returns population values for {{Q\|33112019}} (SAL) and {{Q\|112729549}} (ILOC) instead, if they exist.
⚫	The mappings are based on outputs of summary SPARQL queries pulling out Infobox place ''type'' versus ABS geography types specified in linked Wikidata item (for all Australian place articles). The module uses the following mappings.

		⚫	The mappings are based on outputs of summary SPARQL queries pulling out Infobox place ''type'' versus ABS geography types specified in linked Wikidata item (for all Australian place articles). The module uses the following mappings:

	{\|class="wikitable"		{\|class="wikitable"
	! Infobox ''type'' !! ABS geographic area		! Infobox {{para\|type}} value !! ABS geographic area
	\|-		\|-
			\| <code>city</code> \|\| {{Q\|33127891}}, UCL
	\| City \|\| Urban Centres and Localities (UCL)
	\|-		\|-
			\| <code>suburb</code> \|\| {{Q\|33112019}}, SAL
	\| Suburb \|\| Suburbs and Localities (SAL)
	\|-		\|-
			\| <code>town</code> \|\| {{plainlist\|
	\| Town \|\| Urban Centres and Localities (UCL) (or SAL or Indigenous Locations (ILOC))
			* {{Q\|33127891}}, UCL
			* {{Q\|33112019}}, SAL
			* {{Q\|112729549}}, ILOC
			}}
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~LGA~~ \|\| ~~Local Government Areas~~ (LGA)		\| <code>lga</code> \|\| {{Q\|33127844}}, LGA
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~Region~~ \|\| ~~Local Government Areas~~ (LGA) (for now)		\| <code>region</code> \|\| {{Q\|33127844}}, LGA (for now)
	\|}		\|}


	==== Step 3. Check which population claims have the most recent figures ====		==== Step 3. Check which population claims have the most recent figures ====

Samwilson: /* Step 1. Check which population claims have enough information to be considered */ Link to properties

2025-05-12T01:21:53Z

Step 1. Check which population claims have enough information to be considered: Link to properties

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	==== Step 1. Check which population claims have enough information to be considered====		==== Step 1. Check which population claims have enough information to be considered====
	As a minimum they are required to have:		As a minimum they are required to have:
	# A ~~''point in time''~~ qualifier date (this helps to choose the most recent population figures).		# A {{prop\|585}} qualifier date (this helps to choose the most recent population figures).
	# An ~~''applies to part''~~ qualifier value (this states which ABS geography type the population is for and helps choose the most appropriate geographic area for the place article).		# An {{prop\|518}} qualifier value (this states which ABS geography type the population is for and helps choose the most appropriate geographic area for the place article).
	# A ~~''determination method''~~ qualifier item (this specifies if it is a census population figure or a non-census population estimate and helps define the reference components).		# A {{prop\|459}} qualifier item (this specifies if it is a census population figure or a non-census population estimate and helps define the reference components).
	# Some reference information (it is a requirement to have something with which to build a reference but more than the minimum is recommended - see the Population data in Wikidata section).		# Some reference information (it is a requirement to have something with which to build a reference but more than the minimum is recommended - see the [[#Population data in Wikidata\|Population data in Wikidata]] section on this page).


	After filtering for these requirements a subset of population claims is carried forward.		After filtering for these requirements a subset of population claims is carried forward.

Graham87: /* What it doesn't do - next steps */ copyedit

2022-09-03T10:01:19Z

What it doesn't do - next steps: copyedit

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	** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}		** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}
	** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)		** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)
	* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic ~~popoulation~~ figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes (eg. [[w:Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]]) or having to maintain individually in-text? Not the same idea, but there is a table of historic population values listed in [[w:Shire_of_Woodanilling\|this article]]).		* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic population figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes (eg. [[w:Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]]) or having to maintain individually in-text? Not the same idea, but there is a table of historic population values listed in [[w:Shire_of_Woodanilling\|this article]]).
	* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]		* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]
	* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?		* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?

MaiaCWilliams: Added an example of a table of populations

2022-07-29T06:56:02Z

Added an example of a table of populations

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	** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}		** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}
	** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)		** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)
	* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic popoulation figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes (eg. [[w:Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]]) or having to maintain individually in-text?		* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic popoulation figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes (eg. [[w:Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]]) or having to maintain individually in-text? Not the same idea, but there is a table of historic population values listed in [[w:Shire_of_Woodanilling\|this article]]).
	* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]		* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]
	* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?		* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?

MaiaCWilliams: /* What it doesn't do - next steps */ Typo fix

2022-07-27T10:39:37Z

What it doesn't do - next steps: Typo fix

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	** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}		** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}
	** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)		** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)
	* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic popoulation figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes (eg. [[w:~~wiki/~~Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]]) or having to maintain individually in-text?		* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic popoulation figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes (eg. [[w:Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]]) or having to maintain individually in-text?
	* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]		* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]
	* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?		* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?

MaiaCWilliams: /* What it doesn't do - next steps */ Typo fix. Previous edit was me too.

2022-07-27T02:48:28Z

What it doesn't do - next steps: Typo fix. Previous edit was me too.

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	** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}		** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}
	** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)		** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)
	* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic popoulation figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes ([[w:wiki/Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]] or having to maintain individually in-text?		* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic popoulation figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes (eg. [[w:wiki/Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]]) or having to maintain individually in-text?
	* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]		* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]
	* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?		* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?

110.145.190.38: /* What it doesn't do - next steps */ Added note about developing and testing table of historic population values as add-on to module

2022-07-27T02:45:08Z

What it doesn't do - next steps: Added note about developing and testing table of historic population values as add-on to module

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	** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}		** {{strikethrough\|change geography to abbreviation}}
	** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)		** adding links to explanations of ABS geographic boundaries (add this info to the Census articles and link to sections there)
			* Make a table of historic population values (from those available in Wikidata and that meet other module criteria) and test this as a new addition to place articles. As part of possible methods of preserving historic popoulation figures in articles. Possibly a better solution than having multiple old values listed in Infoboxes ([[w:wiki/Basket_Range,_South_Australia\|Basket_Range,_South_Australia]] or having to maintain individually in-text?
	* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]		* Figure out the case of two Infoboxes: [[Jimbour East, Queensland]]
	* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?		* Suppress the population figures for protected areas. (eg, no output for type = protected). Yes?

Graham87: /* Census data */ typo

2022-07-26T15:31:33Z

Census data: typo

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	=== Census data ===		=== Census data ===
	Population data has historically been manually entered to individual Wikidata items. Recently (since ~2017) [[User:99of9]], [[User:Canley]] and others have used [[d:Help:QuickStatements\|QuickStatements]] to do bulk imports of population data from ~~Australia~~ Bureau of Statistics datasets. Part of developing this module was to refine the list of metadata (qualifiers and reference fields) that should be imported alongside the population values.		Population data has historically been manually entered to individual Wikidata items. Recently (since ~2017) [[User:99of9]], [[User:Canley]] and others have used [[d:Help:QuickStatements\|QuickStatements]] to do bulk imports of population data from Australian Bureau of Statistics datasets. Part of developing this module was to refine the list of metadata (qualifiers and reference fields) that should be imported alongside the population values.

	As at July 2022 the first release of the 2021 census population data has been uploaded for the geographic areas relevant to Australian place Infoboxes. This includes data for Suburbs and Localities (SAL), Indigenous Locations (ILOC) and Local Government Areas (LGA). The Urban Centres and Localities (UCL) data is due to be released in October 2022.		As at July 2022 the first release of the 2021 census population data has been uploaded for the geographic areas relevant to Australian place Infoboxes. This includes data for Suburbs and Localities (SAL), Indigenous Locations (ILOC) and Local Government Areas (LGA). The Urban Centres and Localities (UCL) data is due to be released in October 2022.

MaiaCWilliams at 05:48, 25 July 2022

2022-07-25T05:48:03Z

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	Currently the module will only give a population figure to the Infobox if one has not been manually added via the Infobox Australian place template ''pop'' field. This means if you want to see the module in action for a particular place article, you should follow these steps:		Currently the module will only give a population figure to the Infobox if one has not been manually added via the Infobox Australian place template ''pop'' field. This means if you want to see the module in action for a particular place article, you should follow these steps:

	# Pick a Wikipedia place article and check that the linked Wikidata item has a [[w:Module:PopulationFromWikidata#Census_data\|valid population claim]] (most now do, but some values will be old because not all 2021 Census data has been released yet~~<ref name=fn1 />~~).		# Pick a Wikipedia place article and check that the linked Wikidata item has a [[w:Module:PopulationFromWikidata#Census_data\|valid population claim]] (most now do, but some values will be old because not all 2021 Census data has been released yet).
	# If the Wikidata item looks good, then edit the Infobox Australian place template part of the article. Remove the ''pop'' value and replace with a comment like: ''“<!--Leave blank to draw the latest automatically from Wikidata-->”.'' Remove the ''pop_year'' and ''pop_footnotes'' fields. Check if the old ''pop_footnotes'' reference had been used elsewhere in the article.		# If the Wikidata item looks good, then edit the Infobox Australian place template part of the article. Remove the ''pop'' value and replace with a comment like: ''“<!--Leave blank to draw the latest automatically from Wikidata-->”.'' Remove the ''pop_year'' and ''pop_footnotes'' fields. Check if the old ''pop_footnotes'' reference had been used elsewhere in the article.
	# Check the output in the article Infobox. If the output is not as expected then edit the Wikidata item or if it’s really broken, get in touch [[w:Module_talk:PopulationFromWikidata\|here.]]		# Check the output in the article Infobox. If the output is not as expected then edit the Wikidata item or if it’s really broken, get in touch [[w:Module_talk:PopulationFromWikidata\|here.]]

MaiaCWilliams: Typos

2022-07-25T05:46:51Z

Typos

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	See line 110 of the [[Template:Infobox_Australian_place\|Infobox Australian place]] template for the module invoke.		See line 110 of the [[Template:Infobox_Australian_place\|Infobox Australian place]] template for the module invoke.

	==== How to see the module in action ====		=== How to see the module in action ===
	Currently the module will only give a population figure to the Infobox if one has not been manually added via the Infobox Australian place template ''pop'' field. This means if you want to see the module in action for a particular place article, you should follow these steps:		Currently the module will only give a population figure to the Infobox if one has not been manually added via the Infobox Australian place template ''pop'' field. This means if you want to see the module in action for a particular place article, you should follow these steps:

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	Here's an [[Maylands, Western Australia\|example]] of an article with Infobox using the module, and the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maylands,_Western_Australia&curid=1336427&diff=1099730354&oldid=1066133969 diff] of the edit made.		Here's an [[Maylands, Western Australia\|example]] of an article with Infobox using the module, and the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maylands,_Western_Australia&curid=1336427&diff=1099730354&oldid=1066133969 diff] of the edit made.

	The list of articles using population values from Wikidata (via this module) is [[Category:Australian_place_articles_using_Wikidata_population_values\|here]].		The list of articles using population values from Wikidata (via this module) is [[w:Category:Australian_place_articles_using_Wikidata_population_values\|here]].

	=== Assumptions ===		=== Assumptions ===