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Johnuniq: Undid revision 1258254902 by Mathglot (talk) moved to Template talk:Convert

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Undid revision 1258254902 by Mathglot (talk) moved to Template talk:Convert

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	::::::Although I did the modification, I tried without those modifications and a bug was present. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 13:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::::::Although I did the modification, I tried without those modifications and a bug was present. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 13:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	Testing on this problem is at [[:uk:User:Johnuniq/convert]] with discussion at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq/convert]]. The bug seems to have been present since the original <code>varname</code> used for certain languages was developed more than ten years ago. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 11:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)		Testing on this problem is at [[:uk:User:Johnuniq/convert]] with discussion at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq/convert]]. The bug seems to have been present since the original <code>varname</code> used for certain languages was developed more than ten years ago. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 11:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

	== Indian numbering system: lakhs and crores ==

	I request that we enhance the module to include [[lakhs]] and [[crores]].

	The [[Indian numbering system]] is the main nomenclature used in South Asia to name large numbers. From the lead:
	: {{xt\|The terms ''[[lakh]]'' or 1,00,000 (one hundred thousand, written as ''100,000'' in Pakistan, and outside the [[Indian subcontinent]]) and ''[[crore]]'' or 1,00,00,000 (ten million, written as ''10,000,000'' outside the subcontinent) are the most commonly used terms in [[Indian English]] to express large numbers in the system.}}
	This is a dimensionless unit, or if you wish, the units are integers. (Hence if implemented, the data item in 'all_units' at [[Module:Convert/data]] could be named <code>["ins"]</code> for 'Indian numbering system'). Note also the main pattern of comma-separation into groups of two and three digits, not just three.

	These terms should be converted to standard English terms, mostly with the term ''million'', except for values up to 9 lakh, which could be 900,000. Sample usage in articles:
	* '''lakh''' – [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=lakh+insource%3A%2F%5B0-9%5D%2A+lakhs%3F+%2A%2F+-intitle%3Alakh&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 6,914 articles]
	* '''crore''' – [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=crore+insource%3A%2F%5B0-9%5D%2A+crores%3F+%2A%2F+-intitle%3Acrore&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 10,809 articles]
	The plural sometimes has the -s, and sometimes doesn't; so both '2 lakhs' and '2 lahk' are seen; same for crore(s).

	This arose at the Rfc at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#RfC Indian numbering conventions\|Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers]], where in my !vote ([[Special:Diff/1258247883\|diff]]) I called for using template {{tl\|Convert}}, only to realize after the fact that the template will not handle it. This conversion is badly needed, as it will resolve a sore point about usage of lakhs and crores in many articles. Thanks, [[User:Mathglot\|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot\|talk]]) 23:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Mathglot: /* Indian numbering system: lakhs and crores */ Adding conversion of these dimensionless units will go a long way to resolving problems of comprehension in tens of thousands of articles.

2024-11-18T23:46:39Z

Indian numbering system: lakhs and crores: Adding conversion of these dimensionless units will go a long way to resolving problems of comprehension in tens of thousands of articles.

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	::::::Although I did the modification, I tried without those modifications and a bug was present. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 13:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::::::Although I did the modification, I tried without those modifications and a bug was present. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 13:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	Testing on this problem is at [[:uk:User:Johnuniq/convert]] with discussion at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq/convert]]. The bug seems to have been present since the original <code>varname</code> used for certain languages was developed more than ten years ago. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 11:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)		Testing on this problem is at [[:uk:User:Johnuniq/convert]] with discussion at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq/convert]]. The bug seems to have been present since the original <code>varname</code> used for certain languages was developed more than ten years ago. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 11:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

			== Indian numbering system: lakhs and crores ==

			I request that we enhance the module to include [[lakhs]] and [[crores]].

			The [[Indian numbering system]] is the main nomenclature used in South Asia to name large numbers. From the lead:
			: {{xt\|The terms ''[[lakh]]'' or 1,00,000 (one hundred thousand, written as ''100,000'' in Pakistan, and outside the [[Indian subcontinent]]) and ''[[crore]]'' or 1,00,00,000 (ten million, written as ''10,000,000'' outside the subcontinent) are the most commonly used terms in [[Indian English]] to express large numbers in the system.}}
			This is a dimensionless unit, or if you wish, the units are integers. (Hence if implemented, the data item in 'all_units' at [[Module:Convert/data]] could be named <code>["ins"]</code> for 'Indian numbering system'). Note also the main pattern of comma-separation into groups of two and three digits, not just three.

			These terms should be converted to standard English terms, mostly with the term ''million'', except for values up to 9 lakh, which could be 900,000. Sample usage in articles:
			* '''lakh''' – [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=lakh+insource%3A%2F%5B0-9%5D%2A+lakhs%3F+%2A%2F+-intitle%3Alakh&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 6,914 articles]
			* '''crore''' – [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=crore+insource%3A%2F%5B0-9%5D%2A+crores%3F+%2A%2F+-intitle%3Acrore&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 10,809 articles]
			The plural sometimes has the -s, and sometimes doesn't; so both '2 lakhs' and '2 lahk' are seen; same for crore(s).

			This arose at the Rfc at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#RfC Indian numbering conventions\|Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers]], where in my !vote ([[Special:Diff/1258247883\|diff]]) I called for using template {{tl\|Convert}}, only to realize after the fact that the template will not handle it. This conversion is badly needed, as it will resolve a sore point about usage of lakhs and crores in many articles. Thanks, [[User:Mathglot\|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot\|talk]]) 23:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Johnuniq: /* Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname */ :uk:User:Johnuniq/convert

2024-09-15T11:05:40Z

Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname: uk:User:Johnuniq/convert

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	::::::<code>exp_multiplier</code> stands for expotential multiplier and it stores the value of <code>eng_scales</code>, so the text of <code>eng_scales</code> can be also declened based on forms of numbers, like milion, miliony, milioniv, miliona.		::::::<code>exp_multiplier</code> stands for expotential multiplier and it stores the value of <code>eng_scales</code>, so the text of <code>eng_scales</code> can be also declened based on forms of numbers, like milion, miliony, milioniv, miliona.
	::::::Although I did the modification, I tried without those modifications and a bug was present. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 13:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::::::Although I did the modification, I tried without those modifications and a bug was present. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 13:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			Testing on this problem is at [[:uk:User:Johnuniq/convert]] with discussion at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq/convert]]. The bug seems to have been present since the original <code>varname</code> used for certain languages was developed more than ten years ago. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 11:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Repakr: /* Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname */ Reply

2024-09-14T13:12:52Z

Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname: Reply

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	::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	:::::{{ping\|Repakr}} I'm looking at function <code>variable_name</code> in [[:uk:Module:Convert/пісочниця]] and wondering what <code>exp_multiplier</code> is and why the function is so different from my ten-year old code. I'll have to leave it at the moment but will look again in a day or two. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 10:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:::::{{ping\|Repakr}} I'm looking at function <code>variable_name</code> in [[:uk:Module:Convert/пісочниця]] and wondering what <code>exp_multiplier</code> is and why the function is so different from my ten-year old code. I'll have to leave it at the moment but will look again in a day or two. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 10:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			::::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], the function is different because Ukrainian uses a different declension than Polish. Ukrainian also has three field declension (metry, metriv, metra) as Polish, but declension differs based on numbers. It works like this singular form is used if the number is 1 or its combination with tens (except 11; like 21, 31), hundreds (like 101, 121, etc.), thousands, and so on; form metry is used if the number is 2, 3, 4 or its combination with tens (except 12, 13, 14; like 22, 32), hundreds (like 102, 122, etc.), thousands and so on; metriv is used if the number is 0 or higher than 4 (it includes 11, 12, 13, 14) or its combination with tens (like 24, 35), hundreds (like 104, 125, etc.), thousands and so on. Form metra is used for both 1/2 and 1.2 fractions. So for me, it was easier to rewrite a code using a function built in MediaWiki that chose the correct form for Ukrainian.
			::::::<code>exp_multiplier</code> stands for expotential multiplier and it stores the value of <code>eng_scales</code>, so the text of <code>eng_scales</code> can be also declened based on forms of numbers, like milion, miliony, milioniv, miliona.
			::::::Although I did the modification, I tried without those modifications and a bug was present. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 13:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Johnuniq: /* Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname */ puzzled

2024-09-14T10:40:26Z

Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname: puzzled

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	:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			:::::{{ping\|Repakr}} I'm looking at function <code>variable_name</code> in [[:uk:Module:Convert/пісочниця]] and wondering what <code>exp_multiplier</code> is and why the function is so different from my ten-year old code. I'll have to leave it at the moment but will look again in a day or two. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 10:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Repakr: /* Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname */ Reply

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Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname: Reply

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	::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Johnuniq: /* Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname */ need simple

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Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname: need simple

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	:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Repakr: /* Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname */

2024-09-14T09:14:48Z

Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname

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	For example, unit Mbit shows as megamegabit ({{lang\|uk\|мегемегабіт}}), and Mm2 shows as megasquare megametre ({{lang\|uk\|мегаквадратний мегаметр}}). [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 08:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		For example, unit Mbit shows as megamegabit ({{lang\|uk\|мегемегабіт}}), and Mm2 shows as megasquare megametre ({{lang\|uk\|мегаквадратний мегаметр}}). [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 08:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Repakr: /* Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname */ Reply

2024-09-14T09:14:23Z

Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname: Reply

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	For example, unit Mbit shows as megamegabit ({{lang\|uk\|мегемегабіт}}), and Mm2 shows as megasquare megametre ({{lang\|uk\|мегаквадратний мегаметр}}). [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 08:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		For example, unit Mbit shows as megamegabit ({{lang\|uk\|мегемегабіт}}), and Mm2 shows as megasquare megametre ({{lang\|uk\|мегаквадратний мегаметр}}). [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 08:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Johnuniq: /* Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname */ demo?

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Doubled SI prefix in singular form with varname: demo?

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	Now I am working on the Ukranian localisation of Module:Convert and I am faced with the bug of doubled SI prefix that appears if parameter varname is used in translation_table. The module uses the singular form of a unit. If the unit uses a plural or declensed singular form defined in parameter varname, then the SI prefix shows as normal. I tried to delete all the modifications that I have done to the module in the Ukranian wiki, and it seems that the bug also appears on a clean version of the English module. Also, it affects only units that have a specified varname, and units that don't work as normal.		Now I am working on the Ukranian localisation of Module:Convert and I am faced with the bug of doubled SI prefix that appears if parameter varname is used in translation_table. The module uses the singular form of a unit. If the unit uses a plural or declensed singular form defined in parameter varname, then the SI prefix shows as normal. I tried to delete all the modifications that I have done to the module in the Ukranian wiki, and it seems that the bug also appears on a clean version of the English module. Also, it affects only units that have a specified varname, and units that don't work as normal.
	For example, unit Mbit shows as megamegabit ({{lang\|uk\|мегемегабіт}}), and Mm2 shows as megasquare megametre ({{lang\|uk\|мегаквадратний мегаметр}}). [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 08:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		For example, unit Mbit shows as megamegabit ({{lang\|uk\|мегемегабіт}}), and Mm2 shows as megasquare megametre ({{lang\|uk\|мегаквадратний мегаметр}}). [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 08:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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	::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	:::::{{ping\|Repakr}} I'm looking at function <code>variable_name</code> in [[:uk:Module:Convert/пісочниця]] and wondering what <code>exp_multiplier</code> is and why the function is so different from my ten-year old code. I'll have to leave it at the moment but will look again in a day or two. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 10:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:::::{{ping\|Repakr}} I'm looking at function <code>variable_name</code> in [[:uk:Module:Convert/пісочниця]] and wondering what <code>exp_multiplier</code> is and why the function is so different from my ten-year old code. I'll have to leave it at the moment but will look again in a day or two. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 10:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			::::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], the function is different because Ukrainian uses a different declension than Polish. Ukrainian also has three field declension (metry, metriv, metra) as Polish, but declension differs based on numbers. It works like this singular form is used if the number is 1 or its combination with tens (except 11; like 21, 31), hundreds (like 101, 121, etc.), thousands, and so on; form metry is used if the number is 2, 3, 4 or its combination with tens (except 12, 13, 14; like 22, 32), hundreds (like 102, 122, etc.), thousands and so on; metriv is used if the number is 0 or higher than 4 (it includes 11, 12, 13, 14) or its combination with tens (like 24, 35), hundreds (like 104, 125, etc.), thousands and so on. Form metra is used for both 1/2 and 1.2 fractions. So for me, it was easier to rewrite a code using a function built in MediaWiki that chose the correct form for Ukrainian.
			::::::<code>exp_multiplier</code> stands for expotential multiplier and it stores the value of <code>eng_scales</code>, so the text of <code>eng_scales</code> can be also declened based on forms of numbers, like milion, miliony, milioniv, miliona.
			::::::Although I did the modification, I tried without those modifications and a bug was present. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 13:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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	:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			:::::{{ping\|Repakr}} I'm looking at function <code>variable_name</code> in [[:uk:Module:Convert/пісочниця]] and wondering what <code>exp_multiplier</code> is and why the function is so different from my ten-year old code. I'll have to leave it at the moment but will look again in a day or two. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 10:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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	::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			::::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]], I am sorry, I didn't catch the meaning first time reading it. So, I added a test to your talk page. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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	:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
			:::{{ping\|Repakr}} That page has dozens of templates and I'm not going to take the time to play with it. If you post a simple test case at [[:uk:User talk:Johnuniq]] I'll have a look although it might not be for a day or two. In the test, point out what is wrong and what it should display. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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	For example, unit Mbit shows as megamegabit ({{lang\|uk\|мегемегабіт}}), and Mm2 shows as megasquare megametre ({{lang\|uk\|мегаквадратний мегаметр}}). [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 08:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		For example, unit Mbit shows as megamegabit ({{lang\|uk\|мегемегабіт}}), and Mm2 shows as megasquare megametre ({{lang\|uk\|мегаквадратний мегаметр}}). [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 08:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		:{{ping\|Repakr}} Are you working with the [[:uk:Мodule:Convert]] set of modules or the sandbox modules such as [[:uk:Мodule:Convert/пісочниця]]? Is there a test page showing the problem? Preferably that would be in a sandbox somewhere with almost nothing else so I can easily see what modules are being used and can experiment. [[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq\|talk]]) 08:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
	::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)		::@[[User:Johnuniq\|Johnuniq]]. I am currently working with the sandbox modules. I haven't created test case for template Convert yet, but there is section in my sandbox: [[uk:Користувач:Repakr/Чернетка#Тестування convert]], where I tested some feature. [[User:Repakr\|Repakr]] ([[User talk:Repakr\|talk]]) 09:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)