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border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>}}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== CSS vs. DSSSL ==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== CSS vs. DSSSL ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 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border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== CSS vs. DSSSL ==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== CSS vs. DSSSL ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 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border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Any discussion of CSS really needs to refer to Haakon Lie's PhD thesis. This explains many of the design decisions behind CSS, particularly those that are seen by CSS newcomers as "limitations" in CSS. CSS was intended to be ''the'' styling language in widespread use, not just one of many. This influenced its design, particularly by encouraging simplicty in both its understanding and use, its implementation (M$ &amp; IE's failure to read the CSS spec notwithstanding) and even the processing overhead needed to implement CSS on small-scale devices. In particular he's quite clear that DSSSL was looked at before designing CSS, considered as a possible basis for the web stylesheet language, and then rejected for over-complexity. Thank goodness for that. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 09:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Any discussion of CSS really needs to refer to Haakon Lie's PhD thesis. This explains many of the design decisions behind CSS, particularly those that are seen by CSS newcomers as "limitations" in CSS. CSS was intended to be ''the'' styling language in widespread use, not just one of many. This influenced its design, particularly by encouraging simplicty in both its understanding and use, its implementation (M$ &amp; IE's failure to read the CSS spec notwithstanding) and even the processing overhead needed to implement CSS on small-scale devices. In particular he's quite clear that DSSSL was looked at before designing CSS, considered as a possible basis for the web stylesheet language, and then rejected for over-complexity. Thank goodness for that. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 09:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== External links modified ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hello fellow Wikipedians,</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I have just modified one external link on [[Document Style Semantics and Specification Language]]. 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DSSSL, like XSL, transforms semantically structured documents into layout specifications; CSS decorates a structure with formatting properties. CSS caught on much more widely due to its simplicity and the fact that its target audience was the Web rather than large-scale publishers, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say that DSSSL was displaced by CSS. &lt;span style="font-family:serif;"&gt;— [[User:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#0000cc;font-style:italic;"&gt;crism&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style="font-size:80%;"&gt;([[User talk:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#009900;"&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]])&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 21:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not really; they were never players in the same space. DSSSL, like XSL, transforms semantically structured documents into layout specifications; CSS decorates a structure with formatting properties. CSS caught on much more widely due to its simplicity and the fact that its target audience was the Web rather than large-scale publishers, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say that DSSSL was displaced by CSS. &lt;span style="font-family:serif;"&gt;— [[User:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#0000cc;font-style:italic;"&gt;crism&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style="font-size:80%;"&gt;([[User talk:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#009900;"&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]])&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 21:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Any discussion of CSS really needs to refer to Haakon Lie's PhD thesis. This explains many of the design decisions behind CSS, particularly those that are seen by CSS newcomers as "limitations" in CSS. CSS was intended to be ''the'' styling language in widespread use, not just one of many. In particular he's quite clear that DSSSL was looked at before designing CSS, considered as a possible basis for the web stylesheet language, and then rejected for over-complexity. Thank goodness for that. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 09:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Any discussion of CSS really needs to refer to Haakon Lie's PhD thesis. This explains many of the design decisions behind CSS, particularly those that are seen by CSS newcomers as "limitations" in CSS. CSS was intended to be ''the'' styling language in widespread use, not just one of many<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. This influenced its design, particularly by encouraging simplicty in both its understanding and use, its implementation (M$ &amp; IE's failure to read the CSS spec notwithstanding) and even the processing overhead needed to implement CSS on small-scale devices</ins>. In particular he's quite clear that DSSSL was looked at before designing CSS, considered as a possible basis for the web stylesheet language, and then rejected for over-complexity. Thank goodness for that. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 09:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> Andy Dingley https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Document_Style_Semantics_and_Specification_Language&diff=425635490&oldid=prev Andy Dingley: /* CSS vs. DSSSL */ 2011-04-24T09:27:33Z <p><span class="autocomment">CSS vs. DSSSL</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 09:27, 24 April 2011</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not really; they were never players in the same space. DSSSL, like XSL, transforms semantically structured documents into layout specifications; CSS decorates a structure with formatting properties. CSS caught on much more widely due to its simplicity and the fact that its target audience was the Web rather than large-scale publishers, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say that DSSSL was displaced by CSS. &lt;span style="font-family:serif;"&gt;— [[User:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#0000cc;font-style:italic;"&gt;crism&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style="font-size:80%;"&gt;([[User talk:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#009900;"&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]])&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 21:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not really; they were never players in the same space. DSSSL, like XSL, transforms semantically structured documents into layout specifications; CSS decorates a structure with formatting properties. CSS caught on much more widely due to its simplicity and the fact that its target audience was the Web rather than large-scale publishers, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say that DSSSL was displaced by CSS. &lt;span style="font-family:serif;"&gt;— [[User:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#0000cc;font-style:italic;"&gt;crism&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style="font-size:80%;"&gt;([[User talk:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#009900;"&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]])&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 21:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Any discussion of CSS really needs to refer to Haakon Lie's PhD thesis. This explains many of the design decisions behind CSS, particularly those that are seen by CSS newcomers as "limitations" in CSS. CSS was intended to be ''the'' styling language in widespread use, not just one of many. In particular he's quite clear that DSSSL was looked at before designing CSS, considered as a possible basis for the web stylesheet language, and then rejected for over-complexity. Thank goodness for that. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 09:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> Andy Dingley https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Document_Style_Semantics_and_Specification_Language&diff=272572569&oldid=prev Crism: replied; added section divider 2009-02-22T21:01:45Z <p>replied; added section divider</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:01, 22 February 2009</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{WikiProject Computing|class=Stub|importance=|auto=yes}}</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{WikiProject Computing|class=Stub|importance=|auto=yes}}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== CSS vs. DSSSL ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not really; they were never players in the same space. DSSSL, like XSL, transforms semantically structured documents into layout specifications; CSS decorates a structure with formatting properties. CSS caught on much more widely due to its simplicity and the fact that its target audience was the Web rather than large-scale publishers, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say that DSSSL was displaced by CSS. &lt;span style="font-family:serif;"&gt;— [[User:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#0000cc;font-style:italic;"&gt;crism&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style="font-size:80%;"&gt;([[User talk:Crism|&lt;span style="color:#009900;"&gt;talk&lt;/span&gt;]])&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 21:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> Crism https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Document_Style_Semantics_and_Specification_Language&diff=240918422&oldid=prev TinucherianBot: Autoassessment for WP:COMP : ( FAQ ) : (Plugin++) class=Stub, auto=yes. 2008-09-25T15:35:50Z <p>Autoassessment for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMP">WP:COMP</a> : ( <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOTFAQ" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOTFAQ">FAQ</a> ) : (<a href="/wiki/User:Kingbotk/P" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Kingbotk/P">Plugin++</a>) class=Stub, auto=yes.</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:35, 25 September 2008</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{WikiProject Computing|class=|importance=}}</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{WikiProject Computing|class=<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Stub</ins>|importance=<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|auto=yes</ins>}}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shouldn't the article reveal that for all practical intents and purposes, DSSSL was displaced by CSS in the late 1990s?--&amp;nbsp;[[User:Eeera|era]]&amp;nbsp;&lt;small&gt;([[User_talk:Eeera|Talk]]&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Eeera|History]])&lt;/small&gt; 10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> TinucherianBot https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Document_Style_Semantics_and_Specification_Language&diff=221628353&oldid=prev TinucherianBot: WP:COMP Tagging ! 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