https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AExtendable-output_function Talk:Extendable-output function - Revision history 2025-06-30T08:30:46Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.0-wmf.7 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Extendable-output_function&diff=1292871204&oldid=prev Dimawik: /* Categories */ Reply 2025-05-29T08:26:18Z <p><span class="autocomment">Categories: </span> Reply</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:26, 29 May 2025</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A reviewer left a request for additional categories (an obvious one is already chosen). Suggestions are welcome. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 19:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A reviewer left a request for additional categories (an obvious one is already chosen). Suggestions are welcome. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 19:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:No suggestions for almost two years, removing the footnote (shoenote?). [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 08:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Non-technical? ==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; 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color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:{{ping|Dimawik}} Lots of people who are interested in cryptography (e.g., students with a generalist CS background half-way through a first cryptography course) won't already be familiar with every single piece of uncontextualized jargon in every corner of the field. A good rule of thumb is to imagine what the typical reader of your article is, and then provide enough context so that a reader one level of specialty lower can understand. --[[User:JayBeeEll|JBL]] ([[User_talk:JayBeeEll|talk]]) 17:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:{{ping|Dimawik}} Lots of people who are interested in cryptography (e.g., students with a generalist CS background half-way through a first cryptography course) won't already be familiar with every single piece of uncontextualized jargon in every corner of the field. A good rule of thumb is to imagine what the typical reader of your article is, and then provide enough context so that a reader one level of specialty lower can understand. --[[User:JayBeeEll|JBL]] ([[User_talk:JayBeeEll|talk]]) 17:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::''A good rule of thumb is to imagine what the typical reader of your article is, and then provide enough context so that a reader one level of specialty lower can understand'': I wholeheartedly agree, yet think that I did just that in this article. As an example, I would fully expect a reader of an article on a variation of a [[cryptographic hash function]] (CHF) to already know what the said function is. One level down is "does not know what a CHF is but is willing to learn". For the latter reader a link to the article about the CHF is provided. In terms of education, this latter person can be a high school student, as this topic is not a genuinely hard subject like [[Maxwell's equations]] in physics, the situation here is along the lines "X is Y, but with an additional property Z. Since X is derived from Y, the properties of Y are inherited. Furthermore, if Y is designed using S, making Y into X is simple." etc. </div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I do not think it is always desirable to avoid using the specialized terminology, as was highlighted by [[Robert Sheckley]] with his Answerer. That said, I would be very happy to improve any particular area of text that is hard to understand. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 06:56, 5 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> Dimawik https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Extendable-output_function&diff=1163402080&oldid=prev JayBeeEll: /* Non-technical? */ Reply 2023-07-04T17:35:15Z <p><span class="autocomment">Non-technical?: </span> Reply</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:35, 4 July 2023</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{ping|‎JayBeeEll}} The subject of the article is highly technical by nature. It is hard for me to imagine a reader that is not interested in cryptography and still wants to read this article. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 00:27, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{ping|‎JayBeeEll}} The subject of the article is highly technical by nature. It is hard for me to imagine a reader that is not interested in cryptography and still wants to read this article. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 00:27, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:{{ping|Dimawik}} Lots of people who are interested in cryptography (e.g., students with a generalist CS background half-way through a first cryptography course) won't already be familiar with every single piece of uncontextualized jargon in every corner of the field. A good rule of thumb is to imagine what the typical reader of your article is, and then provide enough context so that a reader one level of specialty lower can understand. --[[User:JayBeeEll|JBL]] ([[User_talk:JayBeeEll|talk]]) 17:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> JayBeeEll https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Extendable-output_function&diff=1163283508&oldid=prev Dimawik: /* Non-technical? */ new section 2023-07-04T00:27:26Z <p><span class="autocomment">Non-technical?: </span> new section</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Previous revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:27, 4 July 2023</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A reviewer left a request for additional categories (an obvious one is already chosen). Suggestions are welcome. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 19:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A reviewer left a request for additional categories (an obvious one is already chosen). Suggestions are welcome. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 19:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Non-technical? ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{ping|‎JayBeeEll}} The subject of the article is highly technical by nature. It is hard for me to imagine a reader that is not interested in cryptography and still wants to read this article. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 00:27, 4 July 2023 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table> Dimawik https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Extendable-output_function&diff=1161599037&oldid=prev Dimawik: /* Categories */ new section 2023-06-23T19:44:44Z <p><span class="autocomment">Categories: </span> new section</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Categories ==<br /> <br /> A reviewer left a request for additional categories (an obvious one is already chosen). Suggestions are welcome. [[User:Dimawik|Dimawik]] ([[User talk:Dimawik|talk]]) 19:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</div> Dimawik