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'''Update:Okay, consider me back-ish. I'm not going to have time to go over the changes I've missed, so hopefully nobody slipped anything by me. I know I left at least one conversation hanging, and I'll get back to that as soon as I can, and try to keep up with new events. Let me know about anything I should know about.''' |
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==कुक्कुरोवाच== |
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[[File:Kukkurovaca userphoto.jpg|right|thumbnail|150px|Mmm, orange juice]] |
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===Origin of the name=== |
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==Intro== |
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(from the talk page) |
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I'm a student currently on leave from [[Brown University]]; I'm originally from [[Oakland, California|Oakland]], [[California|CA]], and currently reside in [[Berkeley, California|Berkeley]]. My first and enduring loves are the studies of [[education]] and [[religion]]. My main educational interests are [[John Dewey]] (generally) and particularly the problems of [[philosophy of education]] which occur in [[democracy|democratic]] education. My religious interests are broad, though I have soft spots for early [[Christianity]], existential Christianity ([[Søren Kierkegaard]], [[Simone Weil]]), [[Buddhism]] (esp. [[Earliest Buddhism]], [[Nagarjuna]], and [[Lin-chi]]), and the [[Taoism]] of [[Zhuang zi]]. I've also got three years of [[Sanskrit]] and a related interest in [[Pali]] and [[Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit]]. |
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What an innovative choice for a user-name! I am not a master of Sanskrit, but can 'Uvaca' (reserved for revered beings ??) be used with a 'Kukkura' ? Just curious.... Chancemill 09:19, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Telegraph-Ave-Berkeley.jpg|thumbnail|300px|My proximate home]] |
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:I was unaware of a distribution of verb forms by reverence; as I understood it, past-tense verbal distinctions were used primarily for differentiating elements like intra-narration and extra-narration time references. But in any case, "kukkurovāca" is totally unresolvable with the dog as the subject, in any case. The only [[sandhi]] which will produce that "o" is a+u, and since the uvāca can't be compounded, the only possible sentence is with the dog in the vocative: "O, dog, (some third party) said (something)." |
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By temperment and choice, I'm more or less a [[pragmatism|pragmatist]], an [[empiricism|empiricist]], and an [[anti-foundationalist]], though I am not uncritical in my acceptance of these tendencies; particularly, I'm conscious of the underrepresentation of the tragic in american pragmatism (cf. [[Cornel West]]'s ''The American Evasion of Philosophy]]'') and of the difficulties that occasionally arise in integrating the religious into them. My pragmatic allegiance is thus more through James than through Dewey, despite my background in education. |
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:But the whole thing is just a sort of self-deprecatory in-joke between myself and a classmate. What we were shooting for and missed when we invented the term was "kukkuro brute", "The dog said," which is a quote from the Hitopadesha. It was a reference to a sentence I translated as "Dog say: repetition of my business how by you doable"--which should really read something like "The dog said, 'Who are you to worry about my business.'" (Both the error and the original translation are, of course, a function of doing your Sanskrit homework exclusively in all-nighters.) |
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===My Heroes=== |
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:So, "kukkurovāca" defines my translation style--drastically literal. Or it was supposed to. But given that we forgot both the correct vocabulary and regular sandhi rules, "kukkurovaca" stands as both a testament to my absurd literality and a caution against error-prone laziness. I habitually use it a username because it's unique and I kind of like the sound of it. Plus, I enjoy the anecdote. |
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* [[Toby Ziegler]] |
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* [[William James]] |
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* [[Simone Weil]] |
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* [[Whipping Star|Jorj X. McKie]] |
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* [[Fluble#Burble Hadrogobodoz|Burble]] |
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===My necessary enemies=== |
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==Me== |
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* [[Hannah Arendt]] |
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Student at [[Brown University]]; originally from [[Oakland]], [[CA]]. First and enduring |
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* [[John Dewey]] |
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loves are the studies of [[education]] and [[religion]]. My main educational interests |
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are [[John Dewey]] (generally) and particularly the problems of [[philosophy of education]] which occur in democratic education. |
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My religious interests are broad, though I have soft spots for early [[Christianity]], existential Christianity ([[Soren Kierkegaard]], [[Simone Weil]]), [[Buddhism]] (esp. [[Earliest Buddhism]], [[Nagarjuna]], and [[Lin-chi]], and the [[Taoism]] of [[Zhuang zi]]. I've also got three years of [[Sanskrit]] and a related interest in [[Pali]] and [[Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit]]. |
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==My username== |
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"Kukkurovaca"; कुक्कुरोवाच in [[Devanagari]]; Kukkurovāca with the appropriate macron. This is usually glossed by those who were familiar with its creation as "Dog Say," the ungrammaticality of which we can get to in a second, but it can't be anything like "Dog Say" or "The Dog Says", because "kukkurovāca" is totally unresolvable with the dog as the subject: the only [[sandhi]] which will produce that "o" is a+u, and since the uvāca can't be in fine compositum (am I spelling that correctly? I don't do latin), the only possible sentence is with the dog in the vocative: "O, (you) dog, (some third party) said (something)." |
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==Interests== |
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But the whole thing is just a sort of self-deprecatory in-joke between myself and a classmate. What we were shooting for and missed when we invented the term was "kukkuro brute", "The dog said," which is a quote from the Hitopadesha. It was a reference to a sentence I translated as "Dog say: repetition of my business how by you doable"--which should really read something like "The dog said, 'Who are you to worry about my business.'" (Both the error and the original translation are, of course, a function of doing your Sanskrit homework exclusively in all-nighters.) |
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[[Buddhism]], [[Nagarjuna]], [[Pragmatism]], [[Philosophy of education]], [[John Dewey]], [[Simone Weil]], [[Sanskrit]], and sundry. |
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So, "kukkurovāca" defines my translation style--drastically literal. Or it was supposed to. But given that we forgot both the correct vocabulary and regular sandhi rules, "kukkurovaca" stands as both a testament to my absurd literality and a caution against error-prone laziness. I habitually use it a username because it's unique and I kind of like the sound of it. Plus, I enjoy the anecdote. |
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===My Watchlist=== |
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[[Buddhism]], [[Cathar]], [[Chuang-tzu]], [[Chuang tzu]], [[Dharma]], [[Dogen Zenji]], [[Frank Herbert]], [[Friedrich Nietzsche]], [[Fundamental Verses of the Middle Way]], [[Hannah Arendt]], [[Hinayana]], [[John Dewey]], [[Jorge Luis Borges]], [[Karl Jaspers]], [[Madhyamaka]], [[Madhyamika]], [[Michel Foucault]], [[Mulamadhyamakakarika]], [[Nagarjuna]], [[Pali]], [[Philosophy of education]], [[Pragmatism]], [[Quine]], [[Religion]], [[Rinzai]], [[Sanskrit]], [[Satan]], [[Shunyata]], [[Simone Weil]], [[Tertullian]], [[The Passion of the Christ]], [[Theodore Sturgeon]], [[Theodoret]], [[Theravada]], [[W. V. Quine]], [[William James]], [[Zen]], [[Zhuang Zi]], [[User:Kukkurovaca]], [[User:Ryguasu]], [[Wikipedia:Village pump]] |
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==Wikiffiliations== |
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I am probably classifiable as an [[meta:inclusionism|inclusionist]] and [[meta:eventualism|eventualist]], and my interpretation of NPOV (coupled to some bad experiences with Dvaita fundamentalism) leads me to be a devout ::cough:: secularist as well, though this doesn't appear to be a recognized wiki-"faction". |
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* "You can reconstruct the picture from chaos and memory's ruins."-Kay Boyle, The Crazy Hunter |
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*[[meta:Wikipedians by favorite color]]: <font style="background-color: #003399"; color="white"> Powder blue </font> (See: [[powder blue]]) |
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* A test of what is real is that it is hard and rough. Joys are found in it, not pleasure. What is pleasant belongs to dreams.-Weil, Gravity and Grace, p.53 |
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*[[meta:Vegetarian Wikipedians]] |
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*[[meta:List of Wikipedians by religion]] (Crypto-Buddhist) |
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*[[meta:Wikipediholics]] (Addicted to that Wikipedihol) |
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*[[Wikipedia:Wikipedians/California]] Oakland |
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*[[Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by fields of interest]] Education, Religion |
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*[[Wikipedia:Wikipedians by birthday]] 10/26 |
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*[[Wikipedia:Instant Messaging Wikipedians]] AIM: ElmoCmrley |
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*[[meta:Wikipedians_by_MBTI_type#INTP|Wikipedians_by_MBTI_type#INTP]] |
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*[[meta:Wikipedians by favorite writers and works]] (several) |
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*[[meta:Wikipedians who like to be categorised]] |
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*[[meta:Wikipedians by astrological sign]] (Scorpio) |
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==Meaningless rankings== |
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* Reality comes into view when we see that nature is not only an obstacle which allows us to act in an ordered way but it is also an obstacle which infinitely transcends us.-Weil, Lectures on Philosophy, p.111 (Emphasis added) |
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* [[Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#Main namespace edits]] 757, as of end-of-[[November 2004]] |
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* The mind is not forced to believe in the existence of anything (subjectivism, absolute idealism, solipsism, skepticism: cf. The Upanishads, the Taoists, and Plato, who, all of them, adopt this philosophical attitude by way of purification). That is why the only organ of contact with existence is acceptance, love. That is why joy and the sense of reality are identical.-Weil, in The Simone Weil Anthology, ed. George A. Panichas. |
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* [[Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#All namespaces]]: 576, as of end-of-[[November 2004]] |
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Now, what does this say about the nature of my contributions to Wikipedia? ::grin:: |
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* In the deepest heart of all of us there is a corner in which the ultimate mystery of things works sadly...--William James, "Is Life Worth Living?" |
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==My People== |
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* Those who dream of the banquet wake to lamentation and sorrow. |
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Those who dream of lamentation and sorrow wake to join the hunt. |
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--Chuang-tzu (tr. Giles) |
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* [[User:Ryguasu|Ryguasu]] [http://unlikelyglossary.objectis.net/ugp/Chris], able interlocutor, co-creator of the space phone and small countries theory, and probably the best native philosopher (i.e., most naturally philosophical person) I've ever encountered. |
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* There's a thing that you must know concerning the jewels of laughter. They always turn again to tears a fortnight after. |
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--Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks |
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* [[User:Wackyslav|Wackyslav]] [http://unlikelyglossary.objectis.net/ugp/Andrew], fellow [[Sanskrit|Sanskritist]] and [[Glossary|glossator]]. Yeah, that's right. Glossator. |
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Rather more located http://kukkurovaca.freezope.org/upg/ZwikiTips |
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* [[User:FireCatcher|FireCatcher]] [http://unlikelyglossary.objectis.net/ugp/Renee], Mother. |
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==Links== |
==Links== |
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* [[FOAF]] via [http://xml.mfd-consult.dk/foaf/explorer/?foaf=http%3A%2F%2Funlikelyglossary.objectis.net%2Fugp%2FNickFOAF2.rdf FoaF Explorer] |
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[http://kukkurovaca.freezope.org/ugp Unlikely Glossary] |
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*[http://unlikelyglossary.objectis.net/ugp/Nick Unlikely Glossary] (Intellectually onanistic in-joke and cultural reference indexing; takes the form of a [[Wiki software|Zwiki]]) |
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*[http://unlikelyglossary.objectis.net/CMR Something vaguely like a blog--new version]; [http://unlikelyglossary.objectis.net/CMR/RSS something vaguely like an RSS feed for something vaguely like a blog.] (cf. [[Meta:Wikipedians who blog]] |
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==Quotes== |
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[http://livejournal.com/~kukkurovaca LJ] |
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==Needed/In progress== |
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===Misc.=== |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Watchclocks|Watchclocks]] |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/BV-141|BV-141]] |
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* [[Clive Cussler]] (add Characters, detailed desc's of novels?) |
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* [[Five Corners]] |
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* [[Ferron]] |
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* [[Fluble]] |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Tlon]] |
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* Tasp! |
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* [[Lucien Lucious Nunn]] |
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* [[Telluride Association]] |
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* [[Deep Springs College]] |
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===Education=== |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/PauloFreire|Freire]] |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Giroux|Giroux]] |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Ted_Sizer|Sizer]] |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Coalition_of_Essential_Schools|CES]] |
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===Authors=== |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Lethem|Lethem]] |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/KayBoyle|Kay Boyle]] |
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* The [[Roger Zelazny]] page is missing any mention of ''Doorways in the Sand'' or, much more disturbingly, ''Dream Master''/''He Who Shapes''--which is easily his most important work! |
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* [[Madeline L'Engle]] |
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*[[Simone Weil]] |
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===Philosophy=== |
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**Reality comes into view when we see that nature is not only an obstacle which allows us to act in an ordered way but it is also an obstacle which infinitely transcends us.-- Lectures on Philosophy, p.111 (Emphasis added) |
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**The mind is not forced to believe in the existence of anything (subjectivism, absolute idealism, solipsism, skepticism: cf. The Upanishads, the Taoists, and Plato, who, all of them, adopt this philosophical attitude by way of purification). That is why the only organ of contact with existence is acceptance, love. That is why joy and the sense of reality are identical.-- in The Simone Weil Anthology, ed. George A. Panichas. |
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*[[William James]] |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/CornelWest|Cornel West]] |
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**In the deepest heart of all of us there is a corner in which the ultimate mystery of things works sadly...--"Is Life Worth Living?" |
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*[[Zhuangzi]] |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Nishitani|Nishitani]] |
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**Those who dream of the banquet wake to lamentation and sorrow. |
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**Those who dream of lamentation and sorrow wake to join the hunt.--(tr. Giles) |
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*Misc. |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Bachelard|Bachelard]] |
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**There's a thing that you must know concerning the jewels of laughter. They always turn again to tears a fortnight after.-- [[James Thurber]], The Thirteen Clocks |
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*Random |
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* [[Simone Weil]]--Huh. Needs much work. |
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**[[User:Kukkurovaca|Elmo Crmley]] (7:05:16 PM): I dont' think Wikipedia has a currently in-built policy for moderating conflicts of the type, "X is a prissy bitch who's stalking me" |
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**[[User:Wackyslav|wackyslav]] (7:06:13 PM): No, although you'd think it would have come up. |
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==Articles== |
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* [[John Dewey]]--More substantive material on non-educational areas of Dewey's philosophy, especially drawing on ''Experience and Nature''; also, discussions of his early work and perhaps some of the insights found in Stephen Rockefeller's Biography-thingy. |
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That I'm wholly or partly responsible for: [[User:Kukkurovaca/Articles]] |
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===Sanskrit=== |
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That need creation and/or improvement: [[User:Kukkurovaca/Kartavya]] |
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That I find amusing: |
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* [[User:Kukkurovaca/Buddhist_Hybrid_Sanskrit|Buddhist Hybrd Sanskrit]] |
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* [[Nihilartikel]] |
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* [[Chessboxing]] |
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==Buddhism-related things== |
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* [[Crushing by elephant]] |
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===[[User:Kukkurovaca/BuddhistShortcuts|MSG shortcuts for inserting unicode romanization]]=== |
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* [[Parish (town), New York]] |
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===[[User:Kukkurovaca/Project_Template|Template for Project]]=== |
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* [[Alasdair Milne]] |
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=== [[User:Kukkurovaca/BuddhismTableExp|BTable|WikiProject Buddhism Table]] === |
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* [[Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius]] |
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* [[Pearl milk tea]] -- "Boba literally means the "dominatrix of balls" in the Chinese language, connoting the image of a busty woman." |
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==Asspains re:unicode== |
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* [[Project Xanadu]] |
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Related pages: |
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==Apparatus== |
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:[[Wikipedia:Village_pump]] |
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===Buddhism Apparatus=== |
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:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_FAQ#How_do_I_convert_Unicode_characters_to_HTML_special_characters? |
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[[User:Kukkurovaca/Buddhism]] |
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:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Special_characters |
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===Wiki Apparatus=== |
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:[[User:Kukkurovaca/Unicode Consortium clips]] |
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[[User:Kukkurovaca/Wiki]] |
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:But BabelPad kicks ass... |
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[[User:Kukkurovaca/SandBox|SandBox]] |
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===Dual-license=== |
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==[[User:Kukkurovaca/SandBox|SandBox]]== |
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Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Watchlist&magic=yes |
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Latest revision as of 06:28, 1 November 2011
कुक्कुरोवाच
Update:Okay, consider me back-ish. I'm not going to have time to go over the changes I've missed, so hopefully nobody slipped anything by me. I know I left at least one conversation hanging, and I'll get back to that as soon as I can, and try to keep up with new events. Let me know about anything I should know about.

Intro
[edit]I'm a student currently on leave from Brown University; I'm originally from Oakland, CA, and currently reside in Berkeley. My first and enduring loves are the studies of education and religion. My main educational interests are John Dewey (generally) and particularly the problems of philosophy of education which occur in democratic education. My religious interests are broad, though I have soft spots for early Christianity, existential Christianity (Søren Kierkegaard, Simone Weil), Buddhism (esp. Earliest Buddhism, Nagarjuna, and Lin-chi), and the Taoism of Zhuang zi. I've also got three years of Sanskrit and a related interest in Pali and Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit.

By temperment and choice, I'm more or less a pragmatist, an empiricist, and an anti-foundationalist, though I am not uncritical in my acceptance of these tendencies; particularly, I'm conscious of the underrepresentation of the tragic in american pragmatism (cf. Cornel West's The American Evasion of Philosophy]]) and of the difficulties that occasionally arise in integrating the religious into them. My pragmatic allegiance is thus more through James than through Dewey, despite my background in education.
My Heroes
[edit]My necessary enemies
[edit]My username
[edit]"Kukkurovaca"; कुक्कुरोवाच in Devanagari; Kukkurovāca with the appropriate macron. This is usually glossed by those who were familiar with its creation as "Dog Say," the ungrammaticality of which we can get to in a second, but it can't be anything like "Dog Say" or "The Dog Says", because "kukkurovāca" is totally unresolvable with the dog as the subject: the only sandhi which will produce that "o" is a+u, and since the uvāca can't be in fine compositum (am I spelling that correctly? I don't do latin), the only possible sentence is with the dog in the vocative: "O, (you) dog, (some third party) said (something)."
But the whole thing is just a sort of self-deprecatory in-joke between myself and a classmate. What we were shooting for and missed when we invented the term was "kukkuro brute", "The dog said," which is a quote from the Hitopadesha. It was a reference to a sentence I translated as "Dog say: repetition of my business how by you doable"--which should really read something like "The dog said, 'Who are you to worry about my business.'" (Both the error and the original translation are, of course, a function of doing your Sanskrit homework exclusively in all-nighters.)
So, "kukkurovāca" defines my translation style--drastically literal. Or it was supposed to. But given that we forgot both the correct vocabulary and regular sandhi rules, "kukkurovaca" stands as both a testament to my absurd literality and a caution against error-prone laziness. I habitually use it a username because it's unique and I kind of like the sound of it. Plus, I enjoy the anecdote.
Wikiffiliations
[edit]I am probably classifiable as an inclusionist and eventualist, and my interpretation of NPOV (coupled to some bad experiences with Dvaita fundamentalism) leads me to be a devout ::cough:: secularist as well, though this doesn't appear to be a recognized wiki-"faction".
- meta:Wikipedians by favorite color: Powder blue (See: powder blue)
- meta:Vegetarian Wikipedians
- meta:List of Wikipedians by religion (Crypto-Buddhist)
- meta:Wikipediholics (Addicted to that Wikipedihol)
- Wikipedia:Wikipedians/California Oakland
- Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by fields of interest Education, Religion
- Wikipedia:Wikipedians by birthday 10/26
- Wikipedia:Instant Messaging Wikipedians AIM: ElmoCmrley
- Wikipedians_by_MBTI_type#INTP
- meta:Wikipedians by favorite writers and works (several)
- meta:Wikipedians who like to be categorised
- meta:Wikipedians by astrological sign (Scorpio)
Meaningless rankings
[edit]- Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#Main namespace edits 757, as of end-of-November 2004
- Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#All namespaces: 576, as of end-of-November 2004
Now, what does this say about the nature of my contributions to Wikipedia? ::grin::
My People
[edit]- Ryguasu [1], able interlocutor, co-creator of the space phone and small countries theory, and probably the best native philosopher (i.e., most naturally philosophical person) I've ever encountered.
- Wackyslav [2], fellow Sanskritist and glossator. Yeah, that's right. Glossator.
- FireCatcher [3], Mother.
Links
[edit]- FOAF via FoaF Explorer
- Unlikely Glossary (Intellectually onanistic in-joke and cultural reference indexing; takes the form of a Zwiki)
- Something vaguely like a blog--new version; something vaguely like an RSS feed for something vaguely like a blog. (cf. Meta:Wikipedians who blog
Quotes
[edit]- Simone Weil
- Reality comes into view when we see that nature is not only an obstacle which allows us to act in an ordered way but it is also an obstacle which infinitely transcends us.-- Lectures on Philosophy, p.111 (Emphasis added)
- The mind is not forced to believe in the existence of anything (subjectivism, absolute idealism, solipsism, skepticism: cf. The Upanishads, the Taoists, and Plato, who, all of them, adopt this philosophical attitude by way of purification). That is why the only organ of contact with existence is acceptance, love. That is why joy and the sense of reality are identical.-- in The Simone Weil Anthology, ed. George A. Panichas.
- William James
- In the deepest heart of all of us there is a corner in which the ultimate mystery of things works sadly...--"Is Life Worth Living?"
- Zhuangzi
- Those who dream of the banquet wake to lamentation and sorrow.
- Those who dream of lamentation and sorrow wake to join the hunt.--(tr. Giles)
- Misc.
- There's a thing that you must know concerning the jewels of laughter. They always turn again to tears a fortnight after.-- James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks
- Random
- Elmo Crmley (7:05:16 PM): I dont' think Wikipedia has a currently in-built policy for moderating conflicts of the type, "X is a prissy bitch who's stalking me"
- wackyslav (7:06:13 PM): No, although you'd think it would have come up.
Articles
[edit]That I'm wholly or partly responsible for: User:Kukkurovaca/Articles
That need creation and/or improvement: User:Kukkurovaca/Kartavya
That I find amusing:
- Pearl milk tea -- "Boba literally means the "dominatrix of balls" in the Chinese language, connoting the image of a busty woman."
Apparatus
[edit]Buddhism Apparatus
[edit]Wiki Apparatus
[edit]Dual-license
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