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:Some of these values are within the [[standard error]] of measurement provided in the nutrition table which derived from the [[USDA National Nutrient Database]] (used as the reliable source for Wikipedia articles on foods), whereas some are unlikely to be reliable (manganese, vitamin E). No [[WP:RS]] is provided by {{u|Dana60Cummins}} for their assertion that the above data are reliable or for the statement about "pure cranberry juice". Nutrient analysis isn't easy, so we should require a reliable analytical source for nutrient contents. |
:Some of these values are within the [[standard error]] of measurement provided in the nutrition table which derived from the [[USDA National Nutrient Database]] (used as the reliable source for Wikipedia articles on foods), whereas some are unlikely to be reliable (manganese, vitamin E). No [[WP:RS]] is provided by {{u|Dana60Cummins}} for their assertion that the above data are reliable or for the statement about "pure cranberry juice". Nutrient analysis isn't easy, so we should require a reliable analytical source for nutrient contents. |
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:There is nothing "unpure" about a cranberry juice product that has been sweetened to make it palatable and fortified with tasteless nutrients. Perhaps "pure" is a matter of "raw" or "unsweetened", for which the [https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/168117/nutrients USDA provides an analysis.] [[User:Zefr|Zefr]] ([[User talk:Zefr|talk]]) 00:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
:There is nothing "unpure" about a cranberry juice product that has been sweetened to make it palatable and fortified with tasteless nutrients. Perhaps "pure" is a matter of "raw" or "unsweetened", for which the [https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/168117/nutrients USDA provides an analysis.] [[User:Zefr|Zefr]] ([[User talk:Zefr|talk]]) 00:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:: That's not correct. Sugar added is very unpure. A person on a ketogenic for medical reasons clearly has a consequence of elevated blood sugar.[[User:Dana60Cummins|Dana60Cummins]] ([[User talk:Dana60Cummins|talk]]) 01:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
:: That's not correct. Sugar added is very unpure. A person on a ketogenic for medical reasons clearly has a consequence of elevated blood sugar.[[User:Dana60Cummins|Dana60Cummins]] ([[User talk:Dana60Cummins|talk]]) 01:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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:::Again, an opinion and [[WP:OR]], now requiring a more stringent [[WP:MEDRS]] source. You are on the edge of [[WP:DE]] and [[WP:TALKNO]] for using the talk page as your forum for unsubstantiated health claims. [[User:Zefr|Zefr]] ([[User talk:Zefr|talk]]) 01:22, 13 January 2021 (UTC) |
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Health Benefits
Under the health benefits section it says that cranberry juice can prevent urinary tract infections (UTIs), however NHS direct clearly states that recent research disproves this theory showing that it is no more effective than a placebo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.148.53 (talk) 11:24, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Concerns over 'Health Benefits' section
I'm a bit worried about some of the sources used in the 'Health Benefits' section. Of particular concern are Basu et al (2011), and Neto (2007). These are the only sources used to support the claims about Cardiovascular Improvement and Prevention of Cancers respectively, but they both appear to be primary sources - clinical research papers. WP:MEDRS makes it clear that claims about biomedical information must be based on secondary sources - which these papers are not. I suggest that these sections be removed unless MEDRS-compliant sources can be found to support them. Girth Summit (talk) 14:33, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and removed the assertions. They could be reintroduced if stronger sources could be found.Girth Summit (talk) 11:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Pure cranberry juice
Pure cranberry juice is often hard to find and very expensive.[citation needed] 8 fluid ounces of pure cranberry juice contains:
- 0.3 mg of Iron (2% RDA)
- 180 mg of Potassium (4% RDA)
- 0.8 mg of Manganese (35% RDA)
- 2.2 mg of Vitamin E (15% RDA)
- 2.0 mg of Vitamin B5 (40% RDA)
- 0.1 mg of Vitamin B6 (6% RDA)
Nutrition Facts from a case of unadulterated juice. Not a reliable source according to admin. Dana60Cummins (talk) 23:55, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- Some of these values are within the standard error of measurement provided in the nutrition table which derived from the USDA National Nutrient Database (used as the reliable source for Wikipedia articles on foods), whereas some are unlikely to be reliable (manganese, vitamin E). No WP:RS is provided by Dana60Cummins for their assertion that the above data are reliable or for the statement about "pure cranberry juice". Nutrient analysis isn't easy, so we should require a reliable analytical source for nutrient contents.
- There is nothing "unpure" about a cranberry juice product that has been sweetened to make it palatable and fortified with tasteless nutrients. Perhaps "pure" is a matter of "raw" or "unsweetened", for which the USDA provides an analysis. Zefr (talk) 00:33, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- That's not correct. Sugar added is very unpure. A person on a ketogenic for medical reasons clearly has a consequence of elevated blood sugar.Dana60Cummins (talk) 01:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)