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You recently removed the AFD notice. You did not read the nomination, it was part of a joint nomination on the other page, and the link was correct. [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] 19:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
You recently removed the AFD notice. You did not read the nomination, it was part of a joint nomination on the other page, and the link was correct. [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] 19:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
:I have a number of points to make. Firstly, please do not leave me messages on my User Page, that is for me, please use my talk page, as I have the decency to do with you. Secondly, the deletion debate should not be had by leaving me messages about your opinion and removing the deletion notice, the debate should be had on the debate page. You do not appear to understand the deletion process, or the reason I am nominating this for deletion. Please take the debate to the deletion debate page at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Eye of Dawn]], talk to me on my talk page (not my user page) if you want to talk to me specifically, and stop removing the deletion notices from the articles. [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] 22:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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RE: Movie info

Sadly, I don't know a lot about the CC movies (I haven't even watched them). But I can put you in touch with CCR and try and get them to help out. Would you like me to do that? -Dynamo_ace Talk

I don't really need to give you permission, but I say go ahead and create them, since they have not been covered. However, I would recommend watching the original subbed version first, since it is a anime. Most anime articles on Wikipedia are listed by their sub names for ease of reference, not for flaming. You can then add a comparasion with the dub, providing you take into account the fact that their was a "conspiracy" surrounding CC's distribuation -Dynamo_ace Talk

They are good, but you might want to tidy them up a bit and possibly link them to the other articles.

Oh, and have you thought about setting up your user page, its acts like a customizable ID. -Dynamo_ace Talk

I noticed the articles were removed and i was thinks where you might have "plagiarized", i know it wasn't your intent but i was wondering, where did you get the information. -Dynamo_ace Talk

Erotic Spanking

I've removed the AfD notice from Erotic Spanking, because you haven't created the deletion discussion page (which should include your reason for nominating it). If you want to nominate it again, please follow all 3 steps listed on WP:AFD#How to list pages for deletion Chovain 20:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You still haven't followed the steps correctly. Unless you do step 2, people will have no idea why you want the page deleted, and will not be able to comment. Unless you do step 3, it will not be listed as being nominated for deletion, so will never get deleted. If you follow this link, you will see full instructions for what to do. I'm going to remove the tag again. Chovain 22:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have replied (and will continue to reply) on my talk page. Chovain 23:21, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You still haven't created the discussion page (You'll notice the link in your edit summary is red). You are only completing step one of the AfD process. The discussion page gets created in step 2. Please re-read the process. Am I making no sense at all? Chovain 23:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied on my talk page again. Chovain 02:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I think I get the problem now - the link in your edit summary when you tagged the article used the wrong case, so came up as broken. Chovain 03:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please, I suggest that you don't put AfD's in until you become a more experienced editor. Having an understanding of the Wikipedia policies and Guidelines, and maybe something about its culture before making such requests would be something beneficial for you to do, IMO.

Suggesting removing "Erotic Spanking" was regarded by myself as unnecessary. I edit hundreds of articles that have sexual content. That is hardly a reason for not having them. Many people, including myself, participate in the topic you are asking to delete, quite regularly. I know hundreds of people personally who find it exciting. Sexuality is normal, healthy and wholesome, not something to hold as secret and hide about. Good luck to you. Atom 12:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've edited my comments above to state my view, hopefully in a non-offensive manner. My apologies for having offended you earlier. Atom 21:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Atomaton, I understand and respect your opinion that the article should not be deleted, but I do not believe it was entirely necessary to call me "foolish" or "clueless". Yes, I understand you do not wish for Erotic Spanking to be deleted, but please do not press your own opinion on me or call me "silly" for nominating the article for deletion. You should also have NOT shared that you erotically spanked your wife or girlfriend last night and you had sex with her. What was your purpose in confiding in me? When I joined Wikipedia, I did not expect all Wikipedians to be so interested in sexuality and erotic acts, as your message implied. I must express my personal surprise that you, being a father and grandfather, are so excited by erotic acts. Again, I understand and respect your opinion that the article in question should be kept, but your message offended me, I must confess. Thank you. Uioh 18:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adult content on Wikipedia

Hello! I saw your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erotic spanking. I thought I'd help explain here.

I'm sure you've already seen that Wikipedia is not censored. There is going to be content on Wikipedia that offends someone, for one reason or another. It would be impossible to agree to the social and political acceptance of everyone in the world who reads the site. Censoring Wikipedia would be an exercise in frustration.

Also, the article in question is notable. It's a well-known phenomenon, referenced in books, movies and news articles worldwide. Since Wikipedia is attempting to be as useful as an encyclopedia, it includes content that is notable and can be verified through various means.

I'll be honest: there are articles on Wikipedia about subjects I don't like. However, Wikipedia is a neutral source. Articles don't take a stance on whether something is right or wrong, just that it exists.

I hope that helps explain how Wikipedia works a bit more. And I hope you keep contributing to improve the articles here! -- Kesh 02:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your questions on Erotic Spanking's AfD page

To try and answer the two questions you raised on the AfD page:

  • Should Wikipedia be censored?
One of Wikipedia's policies is that Wikipedia is generally not censored. See [section] for a brief explanation. This is one of the important idea's on which Wikipedia has been built.
My personal view is that there are plenty of nasties out there on the Internet. It is the responsibility of children's carers to educate children as to what is appropriate, and what is not, otherwise children will not be prepared when they meet the nasties elsewhere.
One of the biggest problems with censorship that it is hard to define what should be censored. Standards vary between different cultures. Who's culture should be use as the basis for censorship?
Where I live children are actively educated, and encouraged to talk about sex. In many parts of the world, it is treated as taboo.
You are right that a normal encyclopaedia would not cover such a topic. Wikipedia is not a normal encyclopaedia though.
  • What is 'notability'?
Notability is one of the main criteria used by Wikipedia to determine if a topic should have an article. In short, if the topic has received 'non-trivial' coverage from multiple 'independent' sources, it is considered notable. This is one such topic. For more information on notability and its application to different areas, see WP:N.

Chovain 02:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded again. Chovain 18:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I have been on this before, and I wish to propose that for pages deemed "adult" - i.e. profanity, nudity, prejudice, drugs - should have a soft redirect - a user of Wikipedia trying to access that page will be redirected to a warning page that says the page he/she is trying to load is of adult content, and not suitable for those not mature. Of course, by choosing the pages that are adult some POV is needed, but if everything was needed to be NPOV then most of the policies are not compliant with NPOV. --Jontsang 21:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If that is an issue either of you wanted to follow up, it should be approached on Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not, not on individual pages you find offensive. A word of warning though: You would be fighting a battle you are extremely unlikely to win. This stuff has all been discussed so many times it is boring people. Chovain 23:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, whatever you say, I'm helping the two of them. I have been trying to censor Wiki for a long time. Now I finally found someone who'll help me. These pages are so sick and so useless and dumb! Why would Wiki get these gross pages? Who the HECK would wanna view these stupid, gross pages? Librax 14:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:COOL before posting to peoples talk pages.

Your edit [1] is weird. I just checked Geoguy91 contribs [2] whose page you complained in great length on (there probably is a policy against this e.g. WP:NPA, WP:CIVIL, WP:COOL in any particular order) and unless they are using an IP they haven't done anything since 26th October 2006 !. You certainly take your time to get wound up !. Please explain why you think Geoguy91 deserves "consequences shall be most unpleasant". If it is a mistake on your part please revert what you have said on Geoguy91 talk page and then I will revert what I have said here. Ttiotsw 23:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moon Medallion

You recently removed the AFD notice. You did not read the nomination, it was part of a joint nomination on the other page, and the link was correct. J Milburn 19:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have a number of points to make. Firstly, please do not leave me messages on my User Page, that is for me, please use my talk page, as I have the decency to do with you. Secondly, the deletion debate should not be had by leaving me messages about your opinion and removing the deletion notice, the debate should be had on the debate page. You do not appear to understand the deletion process, or the reason I am nominating this for deletion. Please take the debate to the deletion debate page at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Eye of Dawn, talk to me on my talk page (not my user page) if you want to talk to me specifically, and stop removing the deletion notices from the articles. J Milburn 22:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]