Talk:Roy Moore: Difference between revisions

I'm not sure if technically he was in comtempt of court -- the sqanction wasn't issued by teh ruling US Districty Court, but by the Alabama Court of the Judiciary. orthogonal 19:32, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

As I understand it, he was in contempt of court once the time limit for compying the court order to remove the monument expired. However, he wasn't removed specifically for that reason - I'll review the article and adjust as necessary to make clear the distinction between his contempt and the Court of the Judiciary decision. Google definition is "A act of defiance of court authority or dignity. Contempt of court can be direct (swearing at a judge or violence against a court officer) or constructive (disobeying a court order). The punishment for contempt is a fine or a brief stay in jail (i.e. overnight)". In the case of the judge, he made it clear that he'd continue to act in that way, so some way to prevent continual recurrances was needed. Jamesday 04:38, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Excuse me, but isn't "As a legal matter, this case is one of the most significant examples of the period of why there is separation of church and state, a principle which, in part is a reflection of the religious persecution by the majority which cause the Pilgrim Fathers to leave England for the Americas. It has a judge who was found to have violated separation, ran for office in a state with a large majority of his religion, on a platform that he would continue to do so, then proceeded to do so when in office. Finally, the judicial system and its controls removed the head judge of a state from office to preserve the separation, in the face of the inevitable disagreement of the majority of the general population of the state, for the fundamental purpose of the separation is to prevent the majority from infringing the rights of the minorities." a bit non-NPOV? It's worded so ambiguously that I can't tell whether it's in favour or against the action taken against Moore, but regardless, it's too verbose, and possibly POV. --Johnleemk 12:51, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Sounds like an essay that I would write for school.. and isn't NPOV "non-point of view", meaning that non-NPOV = POV? :-) ugen64 01:52, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

Actually NPOV is "neutral point of view", not "non point of view". But anyway, I also feel that that paragraph is very POV, I can't see anything that looks like an actual fact in it rather than opion. Saul Taylor 02:42, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

If you, me, or most other people acted like Roy Moore did we'd probably be facing jail time for contempt of court and violating a court order. Moore was very lucky that the only thing that happened was for him to loose his job.

JesseG 02:15, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

removing phrase "so-called"

Without objection, I think we should remove the "so-called" in front of the phrase "separation of church and state." That there is a legal and philosophical position called "separation of church and state" I don't think can be legitimately disputed, and the use of offending words is not neutral.

Iilliterate guy with the school bus

This admittedly made me laugh, but it is quite POV. I'm taking it out. --Saucy Intruder 2 July 2005 17:18 (UTC)

The bus

I've seen this bus and a news article about it. He's quite sincere, and has added more praise of Moore to it, this time getting the name spelled right.

POV's

1) There is a section that appears to try to enter the mind of Judge Moore to explain why he made a particular statement on a talk show. The authors should not presume to read the mind of Judge Moore, rather the facts should speak for themselves.

2) Why uppercase all letters of GOD? It would be most appropriate to be "God" since it is a proper noun in the sense that it is being used in context.