Talk:Coat of arms of Canada: Difference between revisions

The blazon seems to omit the ribbon? —Ashley Y 08:18, Dec 12, 2003 (UTC)

the blazon is original, and the use of a decoration would not normally be blazoned, although as the Order of Canada ribbon is now used for all occassions (not just by holders of the Order) the blazon should (may already have been) updated by the Heraldic Authority garryq 00:56, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

As the edits have gone back and forth on the date that the ribbon was added (1987 or 1994), I would think that this page would settle the matter: www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/sc-cs/arm2_e.cfm. HistoryBA 22:45, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

all I get is HTTP Error 404, so I go by the official statements in the House of Commons, and have deleted the name of the PM. Careful reading of the paragraph in the first place would have shown that 1987 refers to the date of change, and 1994 was the year the new design was allowed for all uses. By 1995 the new design came into widespread use and the change was advertised by the government. garryq 00:56, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Here's the text: "On the advice of the Prime Minister of Canada, Her Majesty The Queen approved, on July 12, 1994 that the arms of Canada be augmented with a ribbon with the motto of the Order of Canada: "Desiderantes Meliorem Patriam". (They desire a better country)." This is from the following page: www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/sc-cs/arm2_e.cfm. If Garryq read the complete Hansard page that he quotes, he would see the following statement from Herb Gray near the bottom: "On the advice of the Prime Minister of Canada, Her Majesty the Queen approved, on July 12, 1994, that the Royal Arms of Canada be augmented of a ribbon with the motto of the Order of Canada, desiderantes meliorem patriam." HistoryBA 23:16, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I have read it, and have read the article which you keep editing, without changing a second reference.

http://www.gg.ca/heraldry/emblems-canada_e.asp

"This version was approved in 1994, and it replaced the previous rendition, created in 1957 by Commander Alan Beddoe."

So what happened to the 1987 version the House of Commons was discussing?

I have not said the change was not made in 1994, I have said it was changed in 1987 for limited uses, and that 1994 the change was approved for all uses. For several years the Order of Canada had been displayed on the arms in Rideau Hall for several years before 1994

Have a look at the section on armorial evolution, if you insist on changing dates, you may as well change both references --garryq 09:23, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)