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It is obviously contested or we wouldn't be having an edit war over it. Vera Cruz

Ok. So what do YOU think is his most famous story? And who agrees with you? -- Tarquin

I am not going to get into a pov argument about which story is most famous. Vera Cruz

Good. don't then. stop damaging the Asimov article -- Tarquin 17:41 Jan 17, 2003 (UTC)

I get us mixed up too, Tarquin! When I first signed up I had already noticed your handle and felt that it was a little rude of me to chose one so similar, but I've been "Tannin" in a lot of places for quite a few years now, and don't have much imagination, so I just shrugged and went ahead anyway. Sorry for any confusion. (And just as well that you and I don't seem to get into conflicts much - I should imagine that the thought of following Recent Changes through an edit war between "Tannin" and "Tarquin" is not one that many readers would relish.) Tannin

Like that newscast I saw once describing a meeting between Ronald Reagan and Secretary of the Treasury Donald Regan.... Yeesh. Koyaanis Qatsi

Dare I mention the famous sporting occasion on which Australian fast bowler Dennis Lillee was batting and got out caught? On the opposing side was English fast bowler Dillie, and spin bowler Willey (I forget their first names). The result on the scorecard had a certain inevitability about it: Lille, caught Willey, bowled Dillee. Still more famous was the time when that same English spin bowler was batting against the West Indies, with their fearsome pace attack led by Michael Holding. Some poor unfortunate radio commentator uttered the immortal words: "It's 6 for 214 as play resumes; the bowler's Holding, the batsman's Willey". (Sorry, I'm messing up your talk page. Read, laugh if it takes you that way, then revert me out of here.) Tannin

Or the fellow drowsing in a Karachi hotel near a stadium, hearing the scores announced in a field hockey game, Singh, Singh, Singh, Singh, thinking Singh must be a heck of a player, then finding that all players on both sides were named Singh. Ortolan88 Hey, wait a minute, how do we know you aren't both the same person?

I didn't find the similarity rude -- amusing, yes. :-) -- Tarquin 10:21 Jan 18, 2003 (UTC)

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Your refusal to discuss things makes it hard to understand what it is that you are upset about. Vera Cruz

You, Vera. YOU. (sorry Isis for chatter on your talk page). We're annoyed at the way you don't give straight answers, dodge matters, and behave in a way that makes us think you're doing it on purpose to annoy us -- Tarquin 01:20 Jan 19, 2003 (UTC)

I am not dodging matters. I have repeatedly stated that I believe a discussion on the origins and varied historical meanings of the word "imperialism" are best suited at the page on the word "imperialism" rather than at New Imperialism where there is a specific discussion of one imperialist era. I can't really stating that is dodging matters and as far as I know it is the only edit war I am involved with.

As for behaving in a way that annoys you...I am sorry I did something that bothered you but I do not remember you ever leaving a message on my talk page pertaining to some action which you found bothersome and I apoligize although I believe the situation would improve if you would try communication instead of "trolling about trolls". Vera Cruz

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Tarquin, You asked on my user page if I had looked anywhere to solve my problem of how to access this page I'm writing on so that I can send a message to you (something to do with your updating the FAQ to include the answer). In fact, I was lazy and did no search for the answer. If you are baffled by what I am talking about, just ignore this!.

Thanks for the replies to my three questions on the Village Pump. I'm off to bed now (11.25 UK time) so I'll look properly at your answers tomorrow. Best Wishes, Adrian Arpingstone 23:21 Jan 20, 2003 (UTC)

Hello Tarq - Lir II

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Thanks muchly.  :-) Koyaanis Qatsi

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20030122 Merci de ta suggestion, je vais jetter un coups d'oeil a la partie francophone du site. Au fait, la partie Economy sur les pays europeens me fait serieusement penser qu'un ultraliberalisme debride fait oublier un peu l'objectivite de la charte et des chiffres. Sais-tu ou est le bon endroit pour en discuter (ca affecte beaucoup d'articles de pays)? Tu peux repondre en anglais sur ma page directement

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I'd like to get the airship/dirigible terminology confusion cleared up so the we can eliminate the clutter in those articles.

User "tannin" has gone silent. So I'm not sure what the appropriate next step is see talk:airship for details. Regards. User blimpguy

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Actually, I had done so before changing it. I can put up with the italics, but I do not think it is correct. see: Wikipedia talk:Filmographies and Discographies user:vaganyik

--- Thanks for the pointer on signing talk pages. However, I'm still not clear on how to add the data automatically.

In general, how does one learn about such tricks? I've looked around and haven't found the page(s) that show the syntax for anything. All of the knowledge of meta-characters and such I've picked up from looking at existing text. So I'd love a pointer. Blimpguy - Fri Jan 24 16:00:35 GMT 2003

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Hey, that idiot who keeps writing KROQ articles needs to die! Chadloder 21:00 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)

You must be a Republican. Most people would be content to have him put a bit more thought into his contributions. Koyaanis Qatsi

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Hey matey. Is it worth my while joining one of these mail lists? Mintguy

you mean the wikipedia-L and all that? Depends... the archives are available, you can try scanning them to see what sort of stuff goes on. Lately, it's been "vera cruz must be banned", "what to do with the www. URL" and "we should all meet up for beer". join for the beer alone ;-) -- Tarquin 23:19 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)

Skip it; you can get the beer at meta. ;) --Brion 23:25 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)

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Gravitational lense silly me, I was to have checked if it already existed!

bah. I did the same thing just the other day :-) . Thought it best to let you know before you put any more work into the duplicate. merge your text into the old one, it looked to me like you'd written things which aren't in the odler one -- Tarquin 00:51 Jan 28, 2003 (UTC)

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Hi Tarquin, There was a long long discussion on royal naming on Wiki, because numerous styles were being used. A structure was agreed after chats on various pages, on the list and other places. I am in the process of putting the final consensus on the naming page.

• As most royals do not have surnames, using surnames is not an option;
• Correct titles should be used; if they don't have one, the form [Prince/Princess . . . of (country)] was the consensus.
• Children of the Prince of Wales are known as Prince/ss 'x' of Wales. (I checked it with Buckingham Palace for the discussion).
• Also, their surname (they do have one) are Mountbatten-Windsor, not Windsor (contrary to widespread myth. (Source: Buckingham Palace and Prince of Wales' office.

That is why William is down as 'Prince William of Wales', Harry is 'Prince Harry of Wales' whereas other British royals without titles are or are being changed to 'Prince/ss x of the United Kingdom' JTD 00:24 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)

I've not really been in on this discussion; I appreciate the note but I'm a tad confused why ... are you sure you don't mean to tell this to Tannin? -- Tarquin 13:31 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)

Not me. I confess to a total lack of interest in the royals. Tannin

According to the talk page, you suggested that the supposed surname of Prince William be used. I was explaining why I think this is not correct. As I said there was a major discussion over a number of weeks involving quite a few Wiki contributors, on various pages. I then posted a suggestion on the Wiki list. I have now posted the consensus agreement, incorporating all the suggested changes on how to deal with royal titles on the naming convention page. I also asked those involved in the discussion to look over it to see if it covers all the points of agreement and suggestion. That was the reason behind the message. JTD 20:32 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)

Ah. I remember now... it was a few weeks ago, and I didn't take part in the rest of the debate. But thank you for letting me know :-) -- t

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Dear Tarquin, Just thought I'd say hello. As a new user, I am much intrigued by your username - is it because you are known for being 'Superbus'? We seem to have quite a lot in common, judging by your user page; I quite agree with your 'raves and rants'. Anyway, I'd better be off for now. Goodbye! Olivia Curtis

welcome to the wikipedia! Always nice to see new users settling in. Hope you don't find it all too confusing, if you have any questions there's the village pump page somewhere... about the name: sadly, no, there's no connection with Romans. -- t

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You think if you plead not guilty, she will file an additional defamation suit against your insinuation that she had filed a bogus charge? You know yer goin to jail when I'm supporting you. Vera Cruz

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This Isis thing is just too darn silly for words! Mintguy

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Housekeeping is what she did when I tried to talk to her too about the grevious injuries I have done to her. I'm sure you can now understand how frustrating that was. Vera Cruz

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Don't go! Mintguy

Yes, don't go. --Camembert

Tarquin, please do not leave Wikipedia! Your work is much appreciated and will live on for years to come. I and, I am sure, other Wikipedians will try to help you in case of a real legal threat. Sadly, the risk of such actions can hardly be eliminated, but we're all on your side here. Unfortunately, Jimbo tends to be a bit overtaxed with the administration and Brion keeps out of conflicts on the English Wikipedia, so we have a bit of a power vacuum. But I am sure this will change, and threats like this will not be tolerated. Feel free to contact me by email if you think I can be of any help. --Eloquence 12:28 Feb 3, 2003 (UTC)

Could someone exlplain to me what this is about? All this illegal,legal.court case things,Isis, Tarquin is all about?? -fonzy

My vote probably doesn't count for much, but I think you should stay, too! If Isis gets the idea that she can drive off anyone who says something she doesn't like, simply by threatening them with legal action, then none of us will be safe... And of course we need all the British people we can get, to prevent the Wikipedia from being too mangled by all those pesky Americans. ;) -- Oliver P. 13:41 Feb 3, 2003 (UTC)

Argh! Another fine contributer gone. You work was much appreciated, Tarquin, and I hope you'll decide to return at some point. Nil illegitimi carborundum.-- DrBob 16:22 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Bummer! Whose reputation is most harmed by whose actions? The page User_talk:Eloquence seems to have the best summaries of this, including the assertions of the offended party. As my aunt once said on a similar occasion: Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Ortolan88 17:01 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

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Come back!

 13:42 Feb 4, 2003 Jimbo Wales deleted "User talk:Isis (archive)"
 13:42 Feb 4, 2003 Jimbo Wales deleted "User talk:Isis"
 13:41 Feb 4, 2003 Jimbo Wales deleted "User:Isis"
 13:39 Feb 4, 2003 Jimbo Wales deleted "K. Kay Shearin"

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Yes, come back. One thing that we Brits don't have to worry about is silly threats of libel - since McLibel even large corporations are worried about bringing cases in Britain. -- Chris Q 17:32 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Look, I'm an American, but for what it's worth, I think it would be a damn shame if you left because of this. I think there's overwhelming support on your side, and as such I think you'll find that you will continue to be welcome here. At this point in time, the last thing we need is decent people jumping ship while the rats stay on board. Graft 17:39 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Amen to that. Tannin

Yes, please consider coming back after your much-needed Wikipedia holiday. IMO Isis' threat was overthetop and it was her, not you, that harmed the community by her extreme pettiness. It would be a great loss to the community if you never came back. --mav

Wait wait wait wait wait! What's going on here? Can someone please give some background about this matter, or a link to a discussion that I missed? Tarquin is one of the guys whom I am always glad to see online. For some reason we tend to be online at the same hours of the day quite often. I am always glad to see him editing my prose because I know that his changes will be very valuable. Tarquin has contributed massively to the feel of Wikipedia by bringing many articles to a higher level. I have followed his work in the English and French versions. I do not know him personally, but day after day, he has become a sort of a friend. Please someone tell me (and others) what is going on. In any case, I would be very disappointed to see him go. If his reasons are good enough and applicable to other Wikipedians, then some others might consider taking a break as well. olivier 19:07 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

erm its messed up, erm tarquin said something Isis miss-understood and nwo is using legal action agasint him, Isis is ignroing tarquion, tarquin is leaving. fonzy

thanks fonzy. sue me isis, i'm bankrupt. then i can like, countersue for defamation, god bless america. MarcusAurelius

where did that happen? on user pages or on the mailing list? (I am not a subscriber). Has anyone been banned in the process? olivier 19:16 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

It all began at Talk:Juliette Binoche. See also User talk:Jimbo Wales for more details of the whole sordid affair. As far as I know, no one's been banned.Tokerboy

Hope you decide to stay tarquin, who else am I going to chat to about compost around here???? quercus robur 19:23 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC) :)

Just curious,Would ppl miss me if i went? What would you miss? what haev you associated me with? -fonzy

Fonzy, I will say that I would miss you, so that you do not sue me for not missing you... olivier 19:35 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

In any case, that's too bad that we do not have a picture of the beautiful Juliette in her article... olivier 19:42 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

For those interested in the matter, more discussions can be read at User talk:Eloquence. olivier 19:58 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

I really hope it's not true that you are leaving, Tarquin. That would be playing into someone else's hands in a big way. I need people like you around, to tell me what to do when I get things wrong. Deb 21:22 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Please stay with us. Ericd 21:38 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Have a hol then come back. You know it makes sense! :) Nevilley 08:40 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

Thank you all for your kind messages, both here and on email. You've restored my confidence in the way we all work together here. This sticky matter has not yet been resolved, but since Isis has voluntarily left and is no longer giving gory details of the Delaware legal system on every other page, there's no need for me to maintain my exile. So I'm on semi-holiday :-) -- Tarquin 10:47 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

Great to see you back. I really mean that. I was worried you were going to stay away. Mintguy

Cool! Welcome back. Tannin

Welcome back! Danny

Glad to see you didn't stay on holiday too long ;-) quercus robur 10:57 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

Welcome back from me too -- Chris Q 11:25 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

wb - fonzy

Warmest welcome back, Tarquin! I believe that most of us here volunteer time to build something great, that will be useful for the largest possible public. It is sad to see that such things can happen, even sadder that it happened to you this time, but I guess that c'est la vie and we should move on and continue the good work. By the way, happy year of the goat! olivier 11:38 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

Glad you decided to stay. "The drones need you. They look up to you." --Eloquence 11:59 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

What's that quote from? Mintguy

Alpha Centauri (a civilisation clone by Sid Meier) Martin

I usually play the Gaians :-) -- Tarquin

<falls out of chair laughing>Mega LOL</falls out of chair laughing> --mav

Blimey, that's a relief, you had me worried for a while there, thought you really had gone for good! It's good to see you back. --Camembert

Glad you're back too, Tarquin - I was beginning to think wikipedia was all about rows and threats of legal action. But I see it's not. --Olivia Curtis

BTW, I hope you don't mind my having corrected something on your User page - it was just changing 'both...are' to 'both...and' --Olivia Curtis

Welcome back Tarquin! I knew you couldn't stay away from those "soft curves of the integral sign!" $Welcome\ Back!$ -- DrBob

Yes - welcome back aboard. Wikipedia is a happier place now. :) --mav

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The value of the future always, out weighes, the value of the past. Two16

Glad you are still with us, Tarquin. Wiki needs people like you. :) JTD 23:09 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)

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Rollback link should be fixed now. --Brion 00:47 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)

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In answer to your question regarding cave painting, Robot was the name of the dog who discovered the cave paintings at Lascaux (fell into hole and was found barking at the paintings). --Daniel C. Boyer

replied on Talk:Cave painting -- t

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i was in the middle of changing pentatonic scale so i could move pentatonic back to being a redirect; thanks for beating me to it! -jp2