Talk:Operation Python

This seems very one sided article, bragging from Indian perspective. Can someone write a proper analysis?!

I completely agree with above. Sources mentioned are one-sided too. Mainly indian. Neutrilty is very biased please backup the facts with high quality sources or consider rewriting the article with mentioning of sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.153.6.65 (talk) 18:01, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Problem is, there are few or no non-Indian sources on operation trident and Operation Python. The Pakistanis liked to pretend it never happened, and did so quite successfully as they were under military dictatorship at the time. There were no other accounts of the operations, other than that Pakistan struck the destroyed ships from its naval register. Nomadfromhell (talk) 15:59, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Welcome. This is a Wiki. That means you can edit the article and provide some balence. Feel free to try anytime. DJ Clayworth 22:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The content of the article are cited, The event has not been publicised much in the pakistani literature as it portrayed the success of Indian Navy and the damage of Karachi harbour. Neverthless the Pakistani version of events can also be added if they are reliably sourced and cited. --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 03:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Flag of convenience

I think Panama is a common location for Flags of Convenience and possibly also a minor maritime nation (due to limited population). Was the tanker really Panamanian or was that just its flag?--Senor Freebie (talk) 08:16, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

DISPUTED TAG and Multiple edits, removal of content from the article

by the [| multiple edits] the userHassanhn5 (talk) has removed some content and the removal has not been explained on the talk page. some of these have been wrongly removed. from the article, . I expect cited explanations for the removal of content or else i propose the restoration of the article before these edits --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 22:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC)--ÐℬigXЯaɣ 18:09, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

reverted okha

reverted the edits http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operation_Python&diff=next&oldid=455678644 the bombing at okha occured on 5 December, 1971 before the operation Python not after Python as it was wrongly portrayed in the article .

added citations for these edits http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operation_Python&diff=next&oldid=455676085 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operation_Python&diff=next&oldid=455676512

--ÐℬigXЯaɣ 01:15, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

PNS strength

I've made minor adjustments as per previous discussion results and reviewed a wrong cited phrase. Check out. I think the armed Pakistani ships like shahjahan, muhafiz and khaiber should be added to strength section. Add if you agree. --lTopGunl (talk) 08:36, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

you can add the strength section(but make sure its reliably cited.) Also there is a possibility that in future an editor might raise a question that these were the destroyed ships of PN, and a harbour generally has more ships, so the Strength of the Karachi harbour during Operation Python could be larger. unless its clearly cited that they were the only ships on harbour that time. what do you say? On the other hand, the participant vessels of the Indian navy in the event has been widely cited, hence it correctly placed for Indian side in infobox.--ÐℬigXЯaɣ 23:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

No, there were no ships destroyed at harbour (if there were any at all at port) because there are no citations for that. In such case the arguing editor will have to bring citations. Adding the strength of the armed ships on both sides with their names is completely normal. Infact the rescue ships should be added too. Same goes for the operation trident (infact the fighter aircraft that did the friendly fire is also supposed to be in the strength since it was participating). Also, the destroyed ships would already go in the loses section so no editor will object. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:08, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

• I dont support adding the rescue ships to the strength they came later on to take survivors and were not a part of operation Python. though it can be mentioned in the aftermath section. about the Trident friendly fire, it happened on the next day, after Trident was already done and Indian ships returning back. The operation Trident was already concluded when the friendly fire was done. its wrong and unwise to add the things that should only be a part of the aftermath section to the infobox. The infobox deals specifically to the event and its actual participants.
• about the PNS ships in operation Python,i could only find mention of PNS Munsif, PNS Dacca as they were in Manora anchorage. The indian offensive was on ships at Manora anchorage as well as on Karachi harbour. with missiles destroying the Kemari oilfarm in Karachi. The PNS Ships at karachi harbour mistook the missile attacks at night to be an air raid and started shelling. there were many PNS gunboats at karachi harbour . its mentioned that PNS himalaya firing of starshells to look for a possible aircraft. there was constant firing from PNS vessels at karachi harbour. just because no vessels at karachi harbour were destroyed does not necessarily mean they did not participate in the fight. PNS himalaya is one such example. at best the strength og the PNS can be mentioned as PNS Dacca, PNS, Munsif, PNS himalaya and unknown number of ships at karachi harbour. this info can be placed,this looks quite reasonable , what do you say ? --ÐℬigXЯaɣ 14:13, 4 November 2011 (UTC)