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Belgrade

Messages left at WikiProject Cities, WikiProject Serbia, WikiProject Belgrade. Todor→Bozhinov 13:23, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citation needed tags and largely unreferenced sections, images are too big and too many (they disrupt the text flow), formatting issues (particularly with references, as most don't seem to use cite templates or a unified style of reference formatting), too great reliance on web references (needs way more published sources). I'm pretty sure Geography can be expanded (I'd call it a stub section), and History may have to be summarized a bit more. Although it hasn't been tagged, Names through history is also unreferenced. Todor→Bozhinov 13:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • My goodness — look at those footnotes (I was traveling when this was promoted). No publishers identified, so we need to click on or mouse over 100 sources to see if they're reliable. No dates, no authors, no last access dates. Lots of WP:UNITS fixes needed also. Apparently promoted on fan support, without serious review. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What? "Citation needed tags" as in a single citation needed tag added last week (now removed)? "Unreferenced sections" as in a single unreferenced section, also since last week? (The other tagged section was referenced.)
When the article was promoted, concern was raised about the images, and it was decided that one image per section should be fine; images have not been changed since.
There are no formatting issues with references. Yes, they don't use cite templates, but that is not a FA requirement. Cite templates could be added easily if they are needed. No, there is no overreliance on web references. All the references are either on-line editions of printed material or official sites, mostly official site of Belgrade, both of which is perfectly acceptable. Publishers are almost always identified.
Geography could perhaps be expanded but I really don't see how could the history section be trimmed.
As for accusations of "fan support", how about actually looking at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Belgrade? I never saw most of those people, and most of them have never edited the article. Nikola 09:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • When this article was in FAC, I mentioned the problem with the citations - I insisted on the fact that there were no printed sources, and all the emphasis was on inline sources, something not enough for such an important topic with historical and cultural parameters. Aren't there any printed sources talking about the history of Belgrade? Why are the editors occupied just with the Internet. Anyway, even if such sources are not added, I hope that the current citations will be properly and uniformly formatted, indicating publisher, work etc. Make proper use of Template:cite web or Template:cite news.--Yannismarou 09:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not to blow my own trumpet, but I did the vast majority of the work to get the article to featured status. Given my current location, books about the history of Belgrade weren't readily available.--Hadžija 13:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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