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Brisbane Broncos

Just to let you know - Brisbane Broncos is a current feature article candidate. To see suggestions other editors are making go to Talk:Brisbane Broncos and press 'leave comments' in the first box. SpecialWindler 03:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Very amusing. Go to the Broncos talk page and have a read. But thanks anyway.--Jeff79 03:19, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean (i obviously miss the sarcasm). SpecialWindler 03:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I mean the Broncos talk page already has several paragraphs of discussion from me.--Jeff79 03:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

No thats not what I mean, go to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Brisbane Broncos and see comments on the Broncos page, you recently reverted some of my changes that other wikipedians suggested. SpecialWindler 03:24, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

team song

Sorry, but even if you did find it you'd have to put it onto a new article connected to the Brisbane Broncos template because the team song on the page would make it look very informal.. (i dont know why) SpecialWindler 03:59, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Brisbane Broncos

Sure, the table is a good summary of the club's performance but ironically I believe a bit too detailed to be left on the main page of an article. All of the important points of the club's history are already summarised in the main history section of Brisbane Broncos. I don't think having games won, games lost and ladder position are a major priority for readers, and from my experience with other editors tables are not encouraged unless they significantly improve the article or are absolutely essential. I'm happy to discuss this with other editors and change my mind if there is a general consensus to leave it where it is. But what I'm doing to the article at the moment will, in my opinion, make the article look and read better. Cheers, mdmanser 05:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I started up a WP:RL article improvement drive (AID) a month or two ago, and we've been gradually working on helping each NRL club article get closer towards FA status. At the moment we're at work on the Brisbane Broncos one. Put your name down and keep an eye out on the talk page for further updates on what the Project is doing, and hopefully you might consider joining to generally improve articles on rugby league! Thanks. mdmanser 13:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Pictures

In a word, no. The original copyright on the photo remains present in all derivative works, no matter what you or I does to it. Andrew Levine 04:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

re:Rugby League season infoboxes

In each NSWRL/ARL/SL/NRL season's infobox (which you have so helpfully added) there is a field for top point-scorer but not one for top try-scorer. I don't know how to edit those infoboxes to put in additional fields but thought maybe you did. In rugby league I think seasons' top try-scorers are of equal (if not greater) interest/importance/relevance as the top point-scorers (who are invariably clubs' goal-kickers).--Jeff79 19:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure how to do it yet, but if i work it out i'l leave a message on your talk page. CEP78 00:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Rugby league player articles

I see you create alot of new rugby league player articles (eg. Billy Moore). When you do so can you include the following template:

{{Infobox_rugby_league_biography}}

The usage is simple to understand for example.

Just a suggestion to improve rugby league player articles, you may also want to join WikiProject Rugby League

SpecialWindler 06:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Player Articles

Although you are making positive contributions to Brisbane Broncos related articles please do not:

• • Put Brisbane Broncos Players into the Category:Brisbane Broncos, they are already in the Category:Brisbane Broncos rugby league players page and as a subcategory of Brisbane Broncos already applies.
  • On discussion of Talk:Rugby league you have mentioned changes such as Wayne Bennett (rugby league footballer) to Wayne Bennett (rugby league), this is fine but. Please do not change pages that are not both footballers (eg. Corey Parker).

Thanks, I'm not trying to discredit what you do, you do a great job editing Wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SpecialWindler (talk • contribs) 07:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

• • • • Sorry for not signing, in response to your question, see my note above. SpecialWindler 07:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• The thingo on Brisbane Broncos is not needed at all (for future reference the template is {{dablink}}. SpecialWindler 07:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• For the category, currently the three non-broncos related people there are Wayne Bennett, Paul Morgan and Barry Maranta, simply because they don't fit into a Category:Brisbane Broncos rugby league coaches or something else. Think about it, in 100 years time, if wikipedia is still going (the internet for that matter), the Brisbane Broncos would have had at least 20 (presuming most wont go for as long as Wayne Bennett has) or so coaches, a category would be made for these coaches. If you seriously still want to go with it, players like Brad Thorn don't need to be there. If you think about something else, if you put one player there, someone will think, ahhh lets put this player here. That the purpose of the Category:Brisbane Broncos rugby league players. SpecialWindler 07:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• • I having nothing wrong with the captains, but the players must be notable enough to be in that, have they changed the club (eg, the captains have but has anybody else done that). (PS Brad Thorn has played rugby union 2000-2004). SpecialWindler 07:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

p.s. Regarding Brad Thorn I said NRL career, not football career--Jeff79 07:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• • Fine, but plus the captains, you might make it 250+ games, (I dont think Petero Civoniceva has done enough to be notable enough and players such as Tonie Carroll (172), Brad Thorn (184), Dane Carlaw (165) and Shaun Berrigan (159) will be making there way up there in the next few years, but very few make it to 250 compared to 200. But if I see Petero there I wont remove it. It takes a very exceptional player to get to 250 games (like your Lockyers, Webckess, Gees, Hancocks) It shows there devotion to the club (i sposse renouf does, but was plagued by injury) SpecialWindler 08:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

People not stupid

Jeff Saw your comment of the other week re Thurston & the JT nickname. "People aren't stupid' you said. Sometimes when reading discussion pages on Wiki RL articles I seriously doubt this. BestSticks66 12:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Right you are. What I meant to say was 'readers'. Should have made that clearer.--Jeff79 18:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

NSWRL Season Articles

Jeff, as I commented tonight in that Broncos Discussion page I've only just seen your NSWRL season articles series. It reminds me that there were some rather lame articles on earlier Grand Finals that seemed to be out on there own. There was one on Roosters v Manly 1972 that I recall copy-editing. Do you know where these are, are there more and would you be intending pulling them into your season articles ? Sticks66 13:49, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

They're not really my articles. Someone called CEP78 and I have been working on them. The same situation exists for the 1911 grand final. When I came across it I just put merger requests on both articles. If no one else does it I'll do it myself one of these days I guess. Might be an idea to just request mergers anytime you find the grand final on a separate page, so when poeple come across them they can look at merging the two. Or you could be bold and do it yourself. I really think they belong in the season pages. I'd like to see every season page include grand final details eventually.--Jeff79 17:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Before doing it I thought I'd check with you first, but I reckon the advertising section could be a sub-heading under "Pre-season" or "Season Summary" or something. Seems a little out of place as a main section coming after the Grand Final section in my opinion.--Jeff79 19:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I was thinking abut that. In the lean years when they had no budget the NRL would make an ad & only show it at launch. Then it would be appropriate for it to be under "Pre-season" and be early in the article. But in the Tina Turner years as for now with That's My Team the ads run all year. Maybe this isn't a problem, "Season launch" could be perfect where there would also be the details of any new teams added or removed. But I was also thinking that no-one wants to read about the "Season advertising " ahead of the Results/Stats and Grand Final memories. It's a bit of a dilemna. Should I ask other RL contributors their opinion ? Perhaps I should first complete a couple more in the STB years so editors can see where I'm heading with these sub sections. --Sticks66 22:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

RL "Ashes" v SOO

Fair enough, although I note that whitewashes are extremely rare in the test series, and GB reps are as capable of lifting and playing "above themselves" as SOO players. Grant | Talk 04:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Player line ups

Jeff I've noticed that in the old season articles the player line ups look like New South Wales Rugby League season 1911; in the more recent season articles they look like National Rugby League season 2000; now in the SoO 1980 article we have a new one. Not sure which of the former two I prefer, but I must admit I think both are preferable to the SoO one where there are two vertical lists required. What do you reckon ? I've also noticed others where the player positions are maked by initials FB for fullback; HK for Hooker etc; I thought that was efficient.Sticks66 15:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Recategorisation of F1 Grand Prix reports

Hi Jeff79. I've noticed you're recategorising lots of Formula One Grand Prix reports from [Category:19xx in sports] to [Category:19xx in motor racing]. Just to let you know, I'm currently in the process of reclassifying all the F1 reports into [Category:19xx Formula One race reports], in line with a discussion at WP:F1. So, if you like, you don't need to bother reclassifying the remaining F1 reports in [Category:19xx in sports] - I should have removed them all from those categories within the next couple of days. -- DH85868993 05:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

NRL

I don't think that the move and edits were properly discussed. The comments at Talk:NRL (disambiguation) were by the banned User:Rugby 666 (a sockpuppet of User:Licinius) and his IP. I think you should move it back and generate more discussion. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

A concensus of one person. He was the person that kept doing this and the ongoing saga at Talk:Football/Archive 7 (Australian rules debates) with his sockpuppets. You must forgive me if I don't see how anything from that user can be in the least bit useful or contribute to consensus. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

TONY GRIMALDI

mate just doing some fiddling around on wikipedia and i thought, ah might aswell search tony. (him being a close mate of mine) thinking as usual, ah no one really remembers him and his defence, but it seems you hit the nail on the head, you know it relly makes me feel good to know that you commit your self to give somuch infomation about others as ya said he really is a great funny bloke and a real top role model for me.