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Note to Non-Native Speakers of English

Years ago, i got stuck in my brain the idea that there's something wrong about modern English singling out the first-person singular pronoun to be spelled with a capital letter. So i spell it without the capital -- except at the beginning of a sentence, or when i'm not the sole author. If you follow my example, native speakers will just figure you're ignorant of the basics.

(I also say the above, and a bit more on my User page.)

Log/Index of Archived Material

Arc 00

  • In /Archive 00 (~ 20 KB, 2004 Feb 26 Thu (UTC))
    • 1 Non-Native Speakers and other Topics of Hopefully Continuing Interest
      • 1.1 Note to non-native speakers of English
      • 1.2 Good Advice to Anyone
      • 1.3 "As of"
        • 1.3.1 as of 2003
        • 1.3.2 Reply
        • 1.3.3 Infinite monkey as-of
      • 1.4 Grammar & Usage Quibbles
        • 1.4.1 "Not to mention its being hard... "
          • 1.4.1.1 Wise use of sentence fragments
          • 1.4.1.2 The problem of "its"
          • 1.4.1.3 The gerund problem
          • 1.4.1.4 Articles?
        • 1.4.2 Like vs. As
      • 1.5 Pascal

Arc 01

  • In /Archive 01 (~ 18? KB, 2004 Feb 26 Thu (UTC))
    • 1 Verbose Disamb Page Soviet
      • 1.1 Bolshevik Understanding
        • 1.1.1 Soviets - frame 1
        • 1.1.2 Soviets - Frame 2: A reply about Soviets
        • 1.1.3 Soviets - Frame 3 - Jerzy again
      • 1.2 (Temp) Deletion of Soviet
    • 2 Re: Family-name-first Names
    • 3 Intel 4004
    • 4 IFF
    • 5 Old Miscellany
    • 6 Nation-State
    • 7 List of people - Response from Paul (User Rfc1394)

Arc 02

  • In /Archive 02 (~ 7? KB, 2004 Feb 26 Thu (UTC))
    • 1 Cut and paste move
    • 2 Contributions on New Topics
    • 3 Die Walküre
      • 3.1 New Miscellaneous
      • 3.2 Welcome back
    • 4 In Use msg
    • 5 Brianism
    • 6 Battery disambiguation
    • 7 Polar something
    • 8 Yeti disagreement
    • 9 List of people by name
    • 10 Kylchap
    • 11 Extro
    • 12 Sandy (?)
    • 13 Senate
    • 14 Request for Comment

Whining

Please see my comment at Wikipedia:Cleanup#January 31. RickK 02:19, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Actually, don't. I've moved it here... Angela. 03:43, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)

The Moved VfD Material follows, as part of the "Whining" section

Velvet Revolver - reads like an article created by banned User Michael - Info seems correct [1][2] Mrdice 17:24, 2004 Jan 31 (UTC)

  • Not the point. Hard banned users are to have all of their input deleted on sight. RickK 19:58, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
  • Really? Surely the point is content? Flobster
    • No, enforcing a ban and not encouraging them is the point. Most of Michael's edits contain factual inaccuracies anyway. Angela.
    • See User:Michael: This user is under a hard ban - see User Talk:Michael/ban for details. All edits by this user will be reverted. Please do not reinstate any edits made by this user. RickK 00:14, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Normally the point is content, but i for one have no problem trusting the sysops and Jimbo's judgement that this is an abnormal case where the disincentive given a vandal is more important that speeding up the improvement of a few articles, or avoiding frustration for a few editors who get caught in the crunch. --Jerzy 02:04, 2004 Feb 8 (UTC)
  • What i have written just above notwithstanding, i am flabbergasted and embarrassed that those who are pointing out the hard-ban can't give a more coherant defense of the policy. If nothing else, start out by pointing out Jimbo's EMail instead of making us wade thru the heated rhetoric to its link. People should stop editing the Michael-IDed stuff, and stop whining about it. But someone better informed than i should do more to relieve the impetus to whine. --Jerzy 02:04, 2004 Feb 8 (UTC)
    • Excuse me? I lsited this here because I wasn't sure that the anon creator was Michael. If I had been sure, I would have deleted it on sight. I was giving the article and the author the benefit of the doubt. Pardon me for trying to avoid getting my head snapped off for a quick delete. Instead, I get it snapped off for not doing a quick delete. I just can't win, can I? Whine, indeed. RickK 02:18, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • My first order of business is apologizing to RickK; the following is what would have been at this point on the Cleanup page if Angela hadn't Edit-Conflicted me by moving it first, just as i tried to add it there:
    • For the benefit of anyone who thought i was describing RickK as one of those who have whined, i make public my apology. I was careless in making the above comment here, rather than under one of the several other items in the last week or so that concerned the ban on Michael. I certainly should not have put my comment right after one of his, on any item where his name is so prominently posted. I should have dug up a different one, where there was extensive "whining" by people who wanted to edit an apparent Michael article, or not to have their baby (their already posted edits) thrown out with Michael's bathwater. I think RickK behaved admirably with regard to this article, and that his reasoning for listing it here rather than VfD is fine. --Jerzy 04:03, 2004 Feb 9 (UTC)
  • Cleanup is not the place to be asking for a defense of the banning policy. Please read Wikipedia:Bans and blocks and then ask on the talk page if you still need further information. Also, Rick did provide you with a link to Jimbo's email. He linked to User:Michael and User Talk:Michael/ban, both of which contain the link to the email. Angela. 03:43, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)

The Moved VfD Material Ends Here, and the "Whining" section continues:

Ooops. Sorry for the edit conflict. :) Angela. 03:57, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)

It's because I had a broken header on my talk page. It said ==Meta===, which is half recognised as a header and messes up all sections after it. Angela. 04:13, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, Jerzy, I appreciate your comments. RickK 04:25, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Copyvio

At the moment, getting an email from the person involved attesting that they own the copyright in question is generally enough to clear things up. In an ideal situation we'd require an official, signed letter stating that fact, but we just have to do with what we have. Go ahead and re-integrate it. It might be worth stating that you received an email from said owner of website on the talk page to preemp any future concerns. - snoyes 04:04, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)

You're probably right re: the revert/edit distinction. I'll keep that in mind. - snoyes 04:21, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)

VfD move

Moving long discussions to the talk page of an article and retaining a link in page is well established process on VfD. Please don't re-add the discussion again, it increases the likelihood of edit conflicts.—Eloquence 09:58, Feb 18, 2004 (UTC)

N-CONUS

I don't recall weather I came with non-continental on my own, or if it is an actual term. I wrote that bit when I was doing a internship and Hughes Network Systems (makers of DirecTV), and they used terms like CONUS (continental united states) and other such terms often. So I either pocked it up from them, or deduced it logically on my own. Which I am not sure, but it is cetainly valid in my opinion. { MB | マイカル } 04:01, Feb 20, 2004 (UTC)

Paczki

Hi Jerzy, the talk pages are sorted out now too. Thanks for explaining the move this page feature to GusGus. Unfortunately, there is no automated way of finding these things, so it relies on people spotting it in recent changes and sorting the problem out before the page histories diverge from each other and become unmergeable. Thanks for noticing it so quickly. By the way, your talk page is 56kb, so you should think about archiving it. Angela. 20:31, Feb 25, 2004 (UTC)


Hey, thanks for the "move this page" info. You folks are a lot nicer than I expected! &mdash GusGus 21:09, 2004 Feb 25 (UTC)

Cleanup

Thanks for reminding me about the proper way to list something on cleanup. I had read it but I'm just so used to signing by writing ~~~~ that I forgot to write ~~~ instead. I think I'll keep the name because I've been using it on the internet for years. Saul Taylor 03:05, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC) (Or should that be Saul Taylor).

Miscellaneous

{Headings Added with Others' Contributions are Always Welcome)

Cleanup

I don't know what to say. I'm very sorry. I remember this happening on the 15th, but I assumed it was just an error, and when it didn't repeat itself, I let it go. I'll go to the pump right away--in fact, I might need your help to figure this out. If so, I'll let you know. Again, I apologize. Thanks for assuming good faith--I assure you, this is not something I'm doing. Embarassed, Meelar 06:27, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)

P.S. I'm using IE 6.0, if that helps any. P.P.S. I had no idea this had happened again, or I would have done something. I'm mortified.

I just asked Uncle Ed on his talk page. Hopefully, he'll get back to me.
Meelar 22:19, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Vote Clarification

I have clarified my vote on the new VfD layout per your request. I am for neither layout. Thanks for the heads up. :) --Flockmeal 20:14, Mar 4, 2004 (UTC)

Diode bridge diagram

Hi Jerzy, glad to help. Take a look at   and see if you think that's close to what you had in mind. Let me know if you want it modified in any way (size, etc.) I can base the others off it if you like it. -- DrBob 18:08, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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