What about the boycott of Apple due to their suit of microsoft by the FSF?
- The Free Software Foundation participated in a boycott of Apple (and Lotus and Xerox) sponsored by the League for Programming Freedom. In 1995 (!), LPF dropped this tactic of boycotting look and feel plaintiffs. Since then FSF has considered Apple operating systems to be like any other (non-free) operating system. Markonen 13:54, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
During the visit at PARC, they were also shown networking. Doesn't that mean that Apple's networking is a result of the PARC researchers?
I think some mention of the 1984 ad might be in order.
I'm not 100% on this, but in regards to the music store, don't the people just own a non-time-expiring license to use the music for personal use? I believe there is a difference.
Should "Software made by Apple" be renamed to something like "Apple Branded software" or something as there are several products they now "own" but do not actively make. e.g. Logic which is still made by e-Magic, even though they were bought out by Apple. You could say that the Mac OS is made in part by Microsoft, due to the fact that Microsoft own a large chunk of Apple Computer. Just my thoughts... Neolux 07:19, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- No. Apple has one of the biggest software development groups in the world, and even if they choose to extend their numbers by acquisitions rather than hiring, the software they sell can very reasonably be called their own. In fact, of all the software companies Apple has acquired in the recent years, Emagic is unique in that it was not incorporated into Apple proper. This was probably due to the company being based in Germany. So you could say that Logic is an exception to the rule, and indeed it is incorrectly referred to as Apple Logic on the page.
- For what its worth, Microsoft does not own Apple shares and it never owned a significant chunk. Microsoft's $100M investment of non-voting stock in mid-90ies was an minuscule portion of Apple's market cap, which now is up to $7.5B. Markonen 09:11, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Deleted "Early machines included a module which used marzipan as the main insulating material on the CPU resistors. The first users of the machines would often make the lab smell of fragrant almonds but the performance boost more than made up for the odour." Ha ha. GRAHAMUK 06:04, 15 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Personally, I feel this page is getting scrappy - it reads like it was written by committee (which of course, it was). The facts are mostly straight, but it jumps around and isn't a coherent story or style. There is also a lot of extraneous and unnecessary detail - I've removed one or two glaring bits (e.g. the fact that IBM is known as Big Blue doesn't need to be mentioned here, it's not relevant to Apple, and can go on the IBM page). I suppose this is the problem with WP in general - everyone has their own favourite factoid they like to contribute but after a while it becomes a bit crufty. I might attempt a rewrite at some point if nobody minds and I get the time GRAHAMUK 06:18, 15 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- I've added a bit more to the intro, and removed 'Woz'. -- Tarquin 10:38, 15 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Weren't the two Steves somehow connected to the hit Atari arcade game, Breakout? And didn't Jobs originally approach Atari (who he was working for at the time) for funding to start Apple? I'd add these facts myself, but I am unsure of the details. Dan Mazurowski 01:48 CDT, 17-Aug-2003
The Apple Computer entry, the Steve Jobs entry, and the Steve Wozniak entry have conflicting views on the selling the Apple I.
- Apple Computer entry has as follows: "...order 50 of the machines and pay $500 each on delivery."
- Steve Jobs entry has only "...at a price of $666.66."
- Wozniak entry has the following. "Apple I was priced at $666. Jobs and Wozniak sold their first 25 computers to a local dealer."
so which is correct, and what should be done?
-anon
- I believe that the Apple I was introduced at the Homebrew computer club and Byteshop order 50 at $500 each. The first Apple I computer as shipped and marketed to the masses was listed at $666 on official price lists. So I guess it comes down to what is determined as the first "sale". Is it the private sale at the club, or the RRP on an Apple Pricelist? Neolux 14:08, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
The article has a big problem: there's a large chronological gap between "The Macintosh" and "Recent Years". I hardly think the paragraph at the beginning of "Recent Years" that attempts to fill in the years between '84 and '97 is representative of the company's activities in those 14 years:
- A laptop version of the Macintosh, the PowerBook, was introduced in the early 1990s. Products from Apple also include operating systems such as ProDOS, Mac OS and A/UX, networking products such as AppleTalk and multimedia program QuickTime. Discontinued products include the Apple Power Mac G4 Cube and the Apple Newton handheld computer.
It's pretty pitiful, really. The iTMS gets two whole paragraphs, yet the Power Mac is not mentioned once! Would someone please fill in that huge gaping hole?
- Agreed, here are some things to focus on. I'll try to add more too: Gil Ameilio, Power Computing clone agreement, Michael Spindler, etc. Fuzheado 14:32, 13 Sep 2003 (UTC)