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This page is only for listing images which are duplicates or otherwise unneeded. For cases of (possible) fair use, see Wikipedia:Fair use. For copyright infringements, use Wikipedia:Copyright problems.

To list an image on this page, simply add it to the bottom. If it is an obsoleted image, please also list the image that it is obsoleted by, in the format "[[:Image:Foo.jpg]] - obsoleted by [[:Image:Bar.jpg]]".

If you remove an image from an article, you should list the article from which you removed it, so there can be effective community review of whether or not the image should be deleted. This is necessary because image pages do not remember the articles the images used to be used on.

Please consider adding the following message to the top of any image page listed on this page: {{ifd}}, which shows up as:

This page has been listed on Wikipedia:Images for deletion. Please see that page for justifications and discussion.

as well as adds the image to Category:Images for deletion.

Articles that have been listed for more than one week are eligible for deletion if either a consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to its deletion have been raised. Such images should be dealt with as soon as possible.

Votes for deletion (VfD) subpages: copyright problems -- images -- speedy deletions -- redirects -- categories -- templates

Deletion guidelines for administrators -- deletion log -- List of empty images

Instructions for administrators

To delete an image, open the image page and click the link, "Delete all revisions of this image" -- NOT the usual "delete" tab at the top of the page. Using the delete tab only deletes the image description, not the actual image.

Also, please specify the reason for deletion in your deletion summary. Examples:

Orphaned and obsoleted, listed on IfD since (date)
Orphaned copyright violation, listed on IfD since (date)

If you delete an image listed on this page, please remove the listing and note your removal in your edit summary.

Note of concern for administrators

As of 18:45, 2004 May 30 (UTC), "what links here" is broken for images. The only way to tell if an image is orphaned is to do a full-text search on the wikitext. I've been doing this on a week-old database dump. Admins: please wait on deleting things until this gets fixed. grendel|khan 18:45, 2004 May 30 (UTC)

Still broken as of now. See Image:Cathedral City hall-300px.jpg and Cathedral City, California for an example. (Editing the page causes the links to be fixed, but that's not a real solution.) grendel|khan 21:13, 2004 Jul 8 (UTC)

Is this still a valid issue? blankfaze | (беседа!) 14:46, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
As long as BUG 968603 is still up there, yes, it's a valid issue. grendel|khan 20:52, 2004 Aug 8 (UTC)

Listings more than one month old

February 17

  • There's a lot of junk in User:Silsor/weirdmedia that needs to be deleted - I already deleted some obvious ones, like an Outlook Express executable. silsor 06:53, Feb 17, 2004 (UTC)
    • I glanced over the list (and used a nice combination of wget and file to examine some of them), and discovered:
      • .jpe appears to be a valid extension for JPEG files (Mozilla and IE both display these fine; but on second thoughts, maybe that's for the same reason as the next item down...) so these can probably be unlisted (unless they break on some other browser...)
        • The server marks these as image/jpeg, so they should be OK in any reasonable browser (assuming they actually are JPEG files, of course). --Zundark 16:49, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
      • Image:TVA Act Signing, Image:Carter Family, Image:Dixie Chicks Home, Image:C diff, Image:Rush Limbaugh Newsweek cover October 20 2003, Image:Test Card J 0001, Image:Ride Press Shot, Image:RideMark04 are all actually JPEGs as well; it might be worth re-uploading them with an appropriate filename extension, but they seem to display fine for me.
        • These should be re-uploaded with appropriate extensions. At the moment the server is marking them as text/plain, which is wrong and is bound to cause problems in some situations. (I find that they display correctly in Mozilla when used inline, but if I right-click on the image and choose View Image then the file is displayed as text.) --Zundark 16:49, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Go ahead and upload them with better extensions, but keep them all. Don't risk problems by deleting User subpage links. — [[User:33451|Mr. Grinch (Talk)]] 18:38, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

June 29

Recent changes on the page claim fair use, but I doubt so. The fact that other websites use the same image doesn't mean that it is not protected by a copyright. The user didn't get any permission from any website to use that image, that could very well be the property of a museum or a photographer.Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 03:20, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Resolve any pages that still link to this before listing it, things should be listed here when they are ready for deletion. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 04:07, 2004 Jul 12 (UTC)
      • Done. I have removed the links. Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 19:43, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
        • I will admit to adding the image without adding copyright information. However, I believe that John Crawford's defense of the fair use status of the image is suitable. If one does a Google Images search for Thales [1], one finds multiple renderings of this statue. For example, are two different instances of the photograph that is used: [2], [3]. Neither of them contains copyright information -- in fact, no photographs of this bust have copyright information. Additionally, there are other photographs of what is clearly the same statue: [4]. Finally, there is a rendering of this bust on what I believe is a Greek postage stamp: [5]. The photograph is thus clearly of a classical bust which has no copyright. Since there is no available positive copyright information about the photograph -- that is, none of the pages that use the image claim copyright -- I believe it would be overzealous to remove this image on the grounds that it might be copyrighted somewhere, by someone. Furthermore, I feel that an adequate justification for fair use has already been given. — Adam Conover † 22:52, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)
          • You are right when you say that the bust itself is classical and has no copyright. And I agree that a photograph of the bust is a fair example of what should appear in the article. However, my concern is not about the right to show the sculpture itself. It is about the artist that took that photograph. For example, if I made a drawing or a painting of the bust, I have the choice whether to claim copyrights for my work of art. The same goes for a photograph. Therefore, no matter how unfortunate is may sound, sometimes there is a line to draw to make sure this website doesn't end up with such photos. Please understand that I'm not trying to be "overzealous". I have been asked to remove that picture from the French wikipedia for those same reasons and I only wish that precautious measures are taken when posting an image. If any user can find a picture of that bust that meets the requirements of this site, I will be more than happy. I do hope that you don't take my interventions personal.Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 03:58, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
            • Do not worry, I do not take it personally whatsoever. However, my feeling is that this is the wrong place to draw the line on such images. We simply have differing viewpoints, and I was making my case above. So don't worry, there are no hard feelings. I simply feel that in the case of a small, oft-reproduced image of a classical statue with no positive copyright information, the Wikipedia benefits more from erring on the side of inclusion rather than on the side of precaution. (There is nothing to stop us from taking it down if the artist steps up and contacts us, for example.) However, if the image is eventually deleted, would the image of the stamp found in Google's image search be appropriate? AFAIK stamp images have the same public domain status as government documents. — Adam Conover † 23:38, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

July 14

Listings older than one week

August 10

August 24

If a cheerleader for an unnotable ivy league sports team can become President of the United States who knows what significance this picture may be in the future? - keep it. Leonard G. 02:42, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Uh, I do not think that you meant that Dubya was a cheerleader... or maybe you did. Who knows? - Ta bu shi da yu 14:03, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Listings less than one week old

August 28

Poor quality, unused copies of Image:Paul Revere.jpg [[User:Gamaliel|Gamaliel File:Cubaflag15.gif]] 16:17, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Sideways, unused image. Turned and resized as Image:Paulgraham_240x320.jpg [[User:Gamaliel|Gamaliel File:Cubaflag15.gif]] 17:59, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

August 29

August 30

BUG 85]. grendel|khan 20:58, 2004 Aug 30 (UTC)

August 31

September 1

  • Image:Peter Deutsch campaign logo.GIF - obsolete because of Image:Peter Deutsch campaign logo.gif. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 04:39, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Image:CEV-cover.jpg - I uploaded this image without checking the filename. (The correct filename is Image:Cev-cover.jpg). I am asking it deleted. Thanks! - iHoshie 05:17, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Image:Wendy.gif. Broken image. Angela. 15:57, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
  • Image:Demo_Yuen_Long.jpg - table as an image, already transcribed at Yuen Long. Plop 17:49, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Image:Uc irvine8300031.jpg - bad picture that I uploaded. Please delete. — Allyunion 09:37, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Image:Hello.jpg - the famous goatse.cx image. IMHO does not belong into a encyclopedia, and is probably a copyvio anyway. It only invites vandals to deface this site by adding the image to an article - see [6]. andy 14:50, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • I reverted it to its original content (I wonder if it was really Guanaco who uploaded the goatse.cx version), so it cannot be abused that easily anymore. andy 14:55, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
      • It wasn't me. It must have been a bug or some sort of a database error that caused that upload to be attributed to me. The goatse.cx version's deleted now. Guanaco 22:22, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
      • What?! Why were the goatse.cx versions deleted?! You know where I stand not only on sexual material but on destroying the history of images. Who deleted the goatse.cx versions? Why don't we have a policy that blocks people from deleting history of Wiki content? — i386 | Talk 16:52, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
        • See the image description page. And no, there is no such policy. Actually the policy is to delete the history of pages / images that are copyvios. Please use the preview button... I've gotten editing conflicts three times just because you didn't complete your message before submitting it... — David Remahl 16:55, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
          • This is not a known copyvio...It's simply unneeded, so it should be listed on IfD, not having any revisions deleted. I will not use the preview buttons when I am in a discussion, as it's too slow over a dial-up connection. Do you know who deleted this particular image? — i386 | Talk 17:08, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

September 2

Image:Ax8.jpg, Image:Ax7.jpg, Image:Ax4.jpg, Image:Ax5.jpg, Image:X21.jpg, Image:X12.jpg, Image:X19.jpg, Image:X16.jpg, Image:X15.jpg, Image:X11.jpg, Image:Pastirma.gif, Image:Meydan1.jpg, Image:Kuscenneti.jpg, Image:Kayseri tum resimler.jpg, Image:Kayseri kilisekucuk.jpg, Image:KALE1.jpg, Image:GECED1.jpg, Image:Doner kumbet.jpg, Image:Erciyes2.jpg, Image:ERCIYES1.jpg.

Unused images with no source information by Aozvarinli whose only edits were image uploads. None of the image description pages have any information on what the pictures are. They all just say "kayseri" on them, so perhaps this was just a bot uploading things. Angela. 16:00, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)

September 3

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