Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Japanese)

Romanization

Use the Hepburn system in principle. This system has several variants. We have to work out the details.

Basic

ア a	イ i	ウ u	エ e	オ o
カ ka	キ ki	ク ku	ケ ke	コ ko
サ sa	シ shi	ス su	セ se	ソ so
タ ta	チ chi	ツ tsu	テ te	ト to
ナ na	ニ ni	ヌ nu	ネ ne	ノ no
ハ ha	ヒ hi	フ fu	ヘ he	ホ ho
マ ma	ミ mi	ム mu	メ me	モ mo
ヤ ya		ユ yu		ヨ yo
ラ ra	リ ri	ル ru	レ re	ロ ro
ワ wa	ヰ i		ヱ e	ヲ o
ン n/m
ガ ga	ギ gi	グ gu	ゲ ge	ゴ go
ザ za	ジ ji	ズ zu	ゼ ze	ゾ zo
ダ da	ヂ ji	ヅ zu	デ de	ド do
バ ba	ビ bi	ブ bu	ベ be	ボ bo
パ pa	ピ pi	プ pu	ペ pe	ポ po

キャ kya	キュ kyu	キョ kyo
ギャ gya	ギュ gyu	ギョ gyo
シャ sha	シュ shu	ショ sho
ジャ ja	ジュ ju	ジョ jo
チャ cha	チュ chu	チョ cho
ヂャ ja	ヂュ ju	ヂョ jo
ニャ nya	ニュ nyu	ニョ nyo
ヒャ hya	ヒュ hyu	ヒョ hyo
ビャ bya	ビュ byu	ビョ byo
ピャ pya	ピュ pyu	ピョ pyo
ミャ mya	ミュ myu	ミョ myo
リャ rya	リュ ryu	リョ ryo

Extension

			イェ ye
	ウィ wi		ウェ we	ウォ wo
ヴァ va	ヴィ vi	ヴ vu	ヴェ ve	ヴォ vo
			シェ she
			ジェ je
			チェ che
		ティ ti	トゥ tu
		ディ di	ドゥ du
ツァ tsa	ツィ tsi		ツェ tse	ツォ tso
ファ fa	フィ fi		フェ fe	フォ fo
		フュ fyu

Notes

1. ハ and ヘ as particles are spelled <wa> and <e> respectively.
2. ン followed by <b>, <m> or <p> is spelled <m>, the rest <n>.
3. ン followed by vowels or <y> is spelled <n'>.
4. ッ doubles the following consonant except for <sh>, <ch> and <ts>. They are spelled <ssh>, <tch> and <tts> respectively.

If we also use ヌヮ (nwa), we should use <n'> before <w>, or otherwise not. I think it is needless. -- Nanshu

Long vowels can be spelled several ways. For exapmle, オウ can be:

1. ou (following the original)
2. ō (with a macron)
3. ô (with a circumflex)
4. oo (doubling)
5. o (indistinguishable from オ)

Which do we adopt?

I like the second, but so many articles need fix in this case. -- Nanshu

First, this is a hard question to reach the concrete consensus. My guess is not make a convention about long vowels, meaing use common usage in English. -- Taku 04:00 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)

Name Order

family name + given name or given name + falimy name?

At least names for historical figures should stick to their original order. -- Nanshu

Names for Emperors

Currently discussed at Talk:Emperor of Japan. See also Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles).

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How does the above relate to common English usage? --mav 19:51 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)

Wikipedia lacks unity regarding Japanese romanization now. For exapmle, most Japanese names such as とうきょう Tokyo lacks long-vowel signs (the fifth case), but the first case can be found at Japanese era name (e.g. ねんごう nengou). That's confusing. And I think an encyclopedia would denote long vowels (e.g. nengō) at least once. -- Nanshu 01:59 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)

What does "not Meiji Emperor, Meiji Emperor" mean? Why twice? -- Zoe

So good they named him twice!!! STÓD/ÉÍRE