"Recent" is ever-changing term. In a few months, these will not be recent. You should consider moving the contents to their respective months. --Jzcool
- I agree. --Daniel C. Boyer
Of course once these are no longer recent deaths, these tidbits of information should be moved to the respective month pages. In the meantime, this is one of our most popular pages, and also just adding information here serves as a cue for people who know something about the people to add to their pages.
I would define "recent" based on the size of the page, I think. I think that this page will be unweildy once it gets to twice the size it is now, and so I'd say that a death is recent so long as it is within the last two years or so.
Again, this is one of our most popular pages, we should not delete it. --Jimbo Wales
- I don't think the question is whether or not we should delete this page, rather trim off the older content. At this writing, we have entries back to September, 2001. Perhaps what should be done is once a month all deaths more than 12 months past should be moved to the proper date entry, & then deleted.
- Any objections? -- llywrch 04:07 Mar 26, 2003 (UTC)
Is Kid Rock really dead - I can't find any reference to it? Verloren
- No. or at least, not according to (http://www.kidrock.com/home.php). Or mtv.com, which is running an interview with hum. Joe C, his dimunitive sidekick died in 2000, though.
What is the convention for death dates: do you take the date at the place where they died or do you take server time, or do you take UTC? AxelBoldt
- I use the day that was listed in the obituary in the newspaper. -- Zoe
- I use the date stated by whatever news source I find the information in -- written news often states what date it was where the person was, and I use this date. --maveric149
According to dictionary.com:
- ce·leb·ri·ty A famous person.
- A person of distinction or renown
- a widely known person
- Or, in the formulation of historian Daniel J. Boorstin, "A celebrity is a person who is well-known for his well-knownness." Boorstin also said, "The hero was a big man; the celebrity is a big name."
- I'd say, for example, most politicians, while famous, aren't celebrities, or if they are, it's for another reason. (Pierre Trudeau to the contrary notwithstanding.)
General Galtieri appears on this page, which bothers me. Do murderous fascist dictators really count as "celebrities"? Could we perhaps change the title of the page to simply "Recent deaths"? --GrahamN 23:18 Jan 12, 2003 (UTC)
- "Recent notable deaths" (or "notable recent deaths") might be a tad better (to avoid people listing their cat), but yes, I think a rename to get rid of the C-word is a good idea. --Camembert 23:34 Jan 12, 2003 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced that "notable" is necessary. You say "to avoid people listing their cat", but we don't feel the need to say "Notable ongoing events", to prevent people describing the progress of their cat's course of de-worming treatment, or "Notable historical anniversaries", to prevent people giving the anniversary of them buying their first cat. If a thing is not notable, what would it be doing in an encyclopaedia? --GrahamN 01:30 Jan 13, 2003 (UTC)
- You're right. "Recent deaths" is fine. --Camembert
On "Uzi submachine gun" Uzi Gal is named Uziel Gal, which one is the correct one? -- JeLuF
- His obituary in the Los Angeles Times called him Uzi, in the headline and in the first paragraph. -- Zoe
- Guardian (UK paper) obit had Uziel throughout. --AW
This may be pedantry, but ... shouldn't this page be at List of recent celebrity deaths? — Toby 01:58 Nov 3, 2002 (UTC)
Anyone think we should move all of the 2002 deaths to the 2002 article? -- Zoe
- No. That would be a bad idea. Each month's worth of deaths should be moved to the corresponding month of 2002 article. The list on the 2002 page should be kept relatively short. --mav
I've just had a go at starting to format this page differently (I'll do the whole page later if there are no protests). I'm sure the bullet points are better, but not so sure about the way I've done the year/month headers (possibly each heading should have month and year given rather than how it is now). I'm also not sure if it would be better to put a hyphen twixt date and name, as on the individual year pages. Comments welcomed. --Camembert
- Anyhow, I've changed it now. --Camembert 19:50 Jan 12, 2003 (UTC)
Maria Felix is listed there under two different dates. We need to correct that.
- Ok, corrected.
- Perhaps what should be done is once a month all deaths more than 12 months past should be moved to the proper date entry, & then deleted. Any objections? -- llywrch 04:07 Mar 26, 2003 (UTC)
If you mean by "date entry" the [month YEAR] pages then I agree. But 2001, 2002 would become ridiculously huge if all these entries were transfered there. That is why the [Month YEAR] pages are a good place to archive this stuff. --mav