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Hello there Paul, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Cheers! --maveric149

Thanks for the welcome!

You hope I stay? As well to hope that a rock will fall downwards when you let go of it. :)

I'm having trouble tearing myself away from the place...

-- Paul A

Ah. Welcome to my world. ;-) --mav

its an odd characheristic of mine. I dont know why. thanks for the correction - Stevert

Hi Paul, great article on Alistair Cooke! In 1973 he also published a book -- a history of the US -- entitled Alistair Cooke's America (BBC Publications, London) -- should that be mentioned as well?

All the best, KF 05:04 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. And thank you for reminding me about Alistair Cooke's America - I've added some information about it to the article.

--Paul A 06:04 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Paul. My wife's surname used to be Wonitoway. Do you have her beat in the difficult names category? :) -- Stephen Gilbert 13:42 Feb 6, 2003 (UTC)

I don't know. Wonitoway looks pretty straightforward to me. :o)

--Paul A 01:53 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Paul, I've set up a page at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (lists) and started moving the discussion at the pump to the related talk page. The pump is getting too long again and this is a better place to discuss the issue. I hope to see you there -- sannse 11:01 Mar 9, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Paul, I noticed that you made a minor change to The Beatles, and the change puzzled me. You changed markup to the headings so that there's no space between the markup and the text of the heading. I always put a space between. And so while I prefer "== heading ==", you prefer "==heading==". (I first started my way to make automatic spell checking shut up in Word.) I checked back on Wikipedia:How to edit a page to see how they did it. They have spaces in between. Is there another place with guidelines that I'm missing? Arthur 23:04 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)

That's my background as a web designer showing: leaving no space between the markup and the heading text is my small rebellion against the general untidyness of the autogenerated HTML code. (That makes it sound deliberate, but it's not really; it's just something I automatically do whenever I edit a topic, like deleted trailing spaces at the end of paragraphs.)

I think the standard of including spaces, if it is a standard, is just to make the wiki markup more readable. As far as I know, it makes no real difference to the actual presentation of the headings on the actual Wikipedia pages.

--Paul A 01:35 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)

(PS. You edit Wikipedia articles in Word?)

yes. Word is helpful because it does spell checking (very useful) and grammar checking (almost entirely useless for educated and good writers, but always good to check). To use Word, I edit the article so I get the marked-up version, select all, copy, paste into Word, edit the article, select all, copy, paste into edit field, and save article. You're right, it makes no difference to presentation. There does seem to be an implied standard on the page i referenced, however. Arthur 03:04 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)

I don't know what happened at rocks. Apparently, I made an accidental redirect from rocks to rocks, but I got confused because on "What Links Here" there was a triple redirect of rocks. But, whatever, User:Salsa Shark seems to have fixed it by redirecting to rock, which is what I meant to do in the first place, so I'll ignore it. Tuf-Kat

Hi Paul, please see Talk:Carthusian where you can enjoy my mental confusion over erroneousness! Thanks, Nevilley 09:25 Mar 24, 2003 (UTC)

Replied to at Talk:Carthusian. Thank you for pointing that out... --Paul A 01:16 Mar 25, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Paul. You may, or may not, be interested to know that Crime Traveller is now available on Region 2 DVD. Also available and perhaps to your taste would be the late 50s British TV version of The Invisible Man [1]. Mintguy

Thanks for wasting my work on Robin Cook the novelist. You better do it now, because I'm pissed. You can't copyright facts, lists of facts, etc., so there is no 'suspected copyright violation' - but who can tell you anything?

There's no need to be personal; this is standard Wikipedia procedure. We have to be careful, because any problem with copyright violation could bring the entire 'pedia down. If that means that sometimes we're too cautious - well, that's the price we have to pay.

In response to your second point: of course you can't copyright facts, lists of facts, etc - otherwise the Wikipedia would be completely impossible. But copyright does protect the form in which the facts and such are expressed; and your contribution is expressed in terms almost identical to those in the American Collection biography.

You're "pissed" because you feel your work has been "wasted"; but do you really think copying an article and moving some of the words around required as much work as writing the article in the first place? How "pissed" might the author of the article be to find someone was taking advantage of her work?

(Incidentally, your work hasn't been wasted: in case you hadn't noticed, Wikipedia keeps backups of old versions of articles, so we can easily restore your work if necessary.)

--Paul A 03:03 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)

Obviously you still don't 'get' it. A copyright that isn't enforceable in a court is all that they've got. The fact that they give it away free already on the Web is another point: they can sue for "damages", which equal "zero" since they already give it away. Be that as it may, a little more editing and adding some new facts into what I did would finish the article off. But you reverted it away, and pissed me off, so if you revert it back, it's now your responsibility. I could have already finished with it but you wasted so much of my time I won't even consider it now. Besides, I can't get away from the image of what made you do it in the first place :)