Template talk:Article for deletion

The final full stop should link to "Template:Vfd" rather than "MediaWiki:Vfd" in order to save a redirect. -- pne 14:30, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

• Can anyone tell me why is there a link in the full stop to this template in the first place? It just looks weird and not really necessary, so can it be removed or something? Secfan 15:05, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • That is intended to be a "hidden" link - unobtrusive to most users, but useful for those who realize that the template itself may need editing or updating. Without that hidden link, it can be very difficult to find the template since it does not come up through the search engine. Rossami 21:34, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • OK, thanks for your response, its just that most other templates I've seen don't have such link there. And are there lists of Wikipedia templates so that they can be more easily accessed? Secfan 13:03, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
      • The link in the full stop is there to allow you to use what links here from template:vfd when the message has been adding using {{subst:whatever}} rather than just {{whatever}}. Angela. 02:51, Jul 29, 2004 (UTC)
        • The full stop link would not be obvious for new users, and experienced users are already going to know about Template:vfd. I think we should either have an "edit" link, or not have it at all. The fullstop link is just weird. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 21:53, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
          • It's not there to help you edit the template since the template does not need to be easily editable. It is so "what links here" works. That won't work without a hidden link. Angela. 10:15, Aug 21, 2004 (UTC)
      • Secfan, there is a list of many templates at wikipedia:template messages —siroχo 19:44, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)

vfd anchors have changed

Can an admin please update this page so that the "it's entry on that page" links are correct? the anchors on vfd are now Page name — Discussion. Please update this template accordingly. -- DropDeadGorgias (talk) 20:33, Jun 17, 2004 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't go to the subpage, that still doesn't work. The link should be [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion#{{PAGENAME}} — Discussion|its entry on that page]] - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 02:59, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)

Here is a sample link (look at the discussion page's source to see the wikitag): its entry on that page. Right now the template will generate links like this:its entry on that page which you can see do not work. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 12:57, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)

This has been resolved. An admin unprotected the vfd template, so I made the changes myself. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:37, Jun 30, 2004 (UTC)

Could someone please indicate whether the above, which is esoteric enough to require research to understand, has been resolved? If so, the research is not worthwhile!

And please mention whether the problems mentioned applied then, and/or now, to

• those who followed the (merely current?) directions and made a subst call and/or
• those who omitted "subst:" and made a straight, every-time-the-template-changes transclusion?

(Note that contrary to instructions, there are currently over 300 links to the Template.)

Part of my reason for asking is that my subst-ed then edited test and proposal at Paul Willmore Sr. seems to work OK, but i don't think i can make a proposal here, let along boldly edit the template, if the above problems are still in the air. --Jerzy(t) 19:08, 2004 Jun 30 (UTC)

Changed template to direct link to the vote sub-page. -- Netoholic 05:31, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

1. Anchor linking doesn't often work. Changed standards, inconsistency(single/double hyphen vs. dash), stray white space.
2. Linking right to the sub-page typically saves on >500kb bandwidth because you don't need to pull down the whole page (which gets quite large).
3. Saves time, no hunting through the long page.
4. Oh, and the link to the main WP:VFD page is still there for anyone who wants to use it.

Vfd at User:

The wikilink [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/{{PAGENAME}}|its entry on that page]] does not work properly on User: pages. See User:Tmxxine. I have no idea on how that can be fixed (nor if that it possible and disirable) --Nabla 21:18, 2004 Aug 21 (UTC)

Help for newcomers

I've linked the vfd template to Wikipedia:deletion phrases in hopes that newcomers can have a chance to feel a little less "bitten", by the short quick replies most people at vfd give. —siroχo 19:44, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)