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Larry Sanger article on Wikipedia at K5

Larry Sanger has an article in the voting queue at Kuro5hin entitled Why Wikipedia Must Jettison Its Anti-Elitism. Wikipedians who are also K5'ers may want to take a look. I'll post the URL once the voting finishes (it looks likely to be voted up).-gadfium 21:00, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It's now on the K5 front page at [3]-gadfium 22:11, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Interesting. I agree with some of it, and not with other parts.
I would suggest that a good place to move detailed discussion of this might be Wikipedia talk:Forum for Encyclopedic Standards, or maybe we should set up a subpage of that for the purpose. Also, on the issue of usefulness, and how that might not simply be a matter of credibility as such, see Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:37, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
Extraordinarily haughty response from Jimbo Wales here [4] saying that he's "very disappointed in you Larry" and "(stop) embarassing yourself". If this is Wikipedia's "benevolent dictator" then God help us. - XED.talk.stalk.mail.csb 10:34, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Your constant kneejerk sniping at Jimbo has become tiresome. Why do you even participate here, when your first edits were attacks on Jimbo and you continue doing so? RickK 00:00, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)
Bah. I said the same damn thing and didn't get a reply back from Larry. I still can't for the life of me understand why Larry (a) doesn't contribute here, and (b) bitches about the site in public and gets so much attention for it. Has he had trouble finding something else to occupy him? grendel|khan 06:17, 2005 Jan 11 (UTC)
I happen to agree with Jimbo. Larrys commentary was rediculous. At best it shows a fundamental mis-understanding of why Wikipedia works (embarrasing for someone who claims to be an insider), and at worst it is a pejorative rant by a disgruntled ex-employee (disappointing coming from a founder). Wikipedia is not targeted to professional editors, it is for Pro-Ams which is a huge marketplace Wikipedia has tapped in to. Papers and articles have been written about this, on why Wikipedia works: Pro-Ams, Long Tail.. The only thing I can figure why Larry wrote this article is to bring attention to himself for some project he may be announcing, thus the hint at a "fork". Since he mentions he is looking for a job in the Academic world, one can only guess. --Stbalbach 00:30, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity --One Salient Oversight 22:23, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost

I've started up a newspaper to try and collect the news that's happening here on the English Wikipedia. Read all about it in The Wikipedia Signpost!

Oh, and anyone who might be interested in helping out with future issues, please let me know. I'm planning to publish it weekly. --Michael Snow 08:36, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Return of the B-Movie Bandit...but with a twist!

The twist is simple: The edits are now positive ones! I found an attempt at an article about a Cher album which was IMO better off as a redirect. Same IP range, same echo of the title in the edit summary. Enough to make my blood run cold. That is, until I looked at the IP's history. There were edits to existing soap opera articles. Not only did my blood run cold, it completely congealed. I dreaded checking. I really did. Now, I'm glad I checked. Every one of the edits was for the better, so help me. Made my day! - Lucky 6.9 01:57, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

This is great!

WikiProject Vienna

Hello! I have started a WikiProject to help get the Vienna page off the ground. Currently, it's an only mediocre Wiki that needs a lot of help translating the previously written German articles into English. If you speak German, or feel like helping to edit, please go and take a look at the project page. Thank you! Páll 05:25, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Warning!

I hope this is the right place to put this.

Warning! As Wikipedia is running slow and sometimes not saving edits you should COPY THE CONTENTS of your edit box when you edit a page. or YOU COULD LOSE ALL YOUR EDIT! WikiUser 21:28, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

With browsers on the Windows operating system, Ctrl + A will Select All content in the textarea, Ctrl + C will copy it to the Clipboard, and Ctrl + V will paste it. –– Constafrequent (talk page) 21:41, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia Toolbar for Firefox

This Firefox extension is a useful tool for navigating Wikipedia. Its home page is on SourceForge/wikitools and some documentation is available on User:Ilya/firefox. Send your feedback so that developers are able to include the features you need. ilya 11:10, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Million pool

Just a reminder, there's a million article pool going, and it will close to new entries when we hit 500,000 articles. As I write this, the number of articles on en: is 457828 and growing rapidly. -- Cyrius|✎ 01:50, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

BBC news: Boy brings Encyclopaedia Britannica to book

see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4209575.stm Dunc|☺ 16:51, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

So how does Wikipedia do?
  • fail - on the location of Chochim - I can't find any reference. Perhaps its a spelling/transliteration issue, but it is spelt the same way in the the Guardian article (I know who would trust the Gruaniad for spelling), however I also can't locate the town via Google or Multimap with that spelling.
  • pass - on the location of the Belovehskaya Forest (Belavezhskaya Pushcha or Bialowieza Forest), but could possibly use some more redirects for alternative transliterations
  • pass - on the range of the reintroduced European Bison - in the Bialowieza Forest and neighbouring countries.
Not too bad. I wonder what the other two facts were. -- Solipsist 17:19, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I have written to the editor of The Times (which first carried the story in today's edition) a letter inviting Lucian to become a Wikipedia editor. Knowing my luck it won't appear ;(. However one can but try. Maybe we might try a /. on the letters page of the Times. The email is: [email protected] Apwoolrich 17:28, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The BBC article actually refers to "the town of Chotym" but that doesn't seem to work any better (not even over on the Polish Wikipedia) :-( --Phil | Talk 18:04, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)
I just saw this article and thought "we should invite him to wikipedia!" - Omegatron 19:40, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)

I searched for Chochim and Chotym on Academic Search Premier, PCI Full Text, Historical Abstracts, Expanded Academic ASAP Plus, MasterFILE Premier, Encyclopedia Britannica Online, History Resource Center - World; all to no avail

JSTOR gave one result: 

Reviewed Work:"Die Reise des Kronprinzen Wladyslaw Wasa in die Lander Westeuro-pas in den Jahren 1624-1625"
-Bolko Schweinitz
Reviewer: Review author[s]: Sam Dunlap - University of California at Berkely
-Sixteenth Century Journal, Vol. 20, No. 4. (Winter, 1989), pp. 659-660.
-Stable URL: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0361-0160%28198924%2920%3A4%3C659%3ADRDKWW%3E2.0.CO%3B2-O

Project Muse: 

sang, Isebong
Remaking Footprints: Palauan Migrants in Hawai'i
The Contemporary Pacific - Volume 12, Number 2, Fall 2000, pp. 371-384 - Article

 ..omes a ultil a chochim  (when you walk watch where your foot leaves a prin..

--Alterego 18:39, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)

Probably related to Moldavian Magnate Wars, which ha a whole lot of battles between a polish alliance and the ottomans. this link refers two battles at that lcoation (with a whole lot of names) in 1621 and 1673. Searching for Khotyn OR Chocim OR Chotyn OR Hotin OR Khotin on Google&Wikipedia gives a whole lot of results with years matching above, especially if you search all wikis -- Chris 73 Talk 03:47, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)
Made a stub Khotyn -- Chris 73 Talk 04:13, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)
And "baby look at you now!"…three days from stub to nice little article :-) --Phil | Talk 09:11, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
That's good wiki. -- Solipsist 20:07, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vote on proposed portal changes

Proposed portal - screenshot
Current portal - screenshot


Please note that the current portal has been recently updated to add the Dutch Wikipedia (which just reached 50,000), but that the page is protected so that contributors have not yet been able to work out an ideal solution to the layout of seven 50+ languages -- if the current one is kept a better solution will obviously be found.

Also, the proposed portal does not currently work in the Konqueror 3.1 browser, but work is ongoing to find the CSS bugs responsible, and any possible workarounds -- if you have experience in this area, please comment on the proposal's talk page.

Thank you for your time! Catherine\talk 11:13, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

PlanetMath Exchange is now live

To expand and enhance our coverage of mathematical topics a subproject of the WikiProject in mathematics has been started to copy over and merge in content from PlanetMath, an online mathematics encyclopedia, which is also under the GFDL. The full details of this project can be found at PlanetMath Exchange (talk). Feel free to join up and help out! CryptoDerk 05:25, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

how to express that i already have permission to use website material?

I recently posted a couple of articles that were taken from a website that had alraady given me permission to post. How do i make that clear on the article page so that no one reverts it for fear of copyright abuse?

Post the details of the permission, and attribution to the original web site, on the articles talk pages.-gadfium 23:58, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
You should always be overtly citing sources anyway. In this case, as part of the citation you can indicate how it is licensed. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:08, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

Live Preview

I have been working on an "extension" to the edit page which allows editors to generate page previews on the fly, directly in the browser. I've written a draft with instructions on how to install it which you can find here. I've been testing ir openly on the Spanish Wikipedia and now decided to make it available to all other wikis. So far it's still in development and it has some limitations, some of which I plan to overcome soon, yet I believe it's mature enough to be useful to some. Please give it a try and tell me what you think. Best regards, Pilaf 04:20, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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