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Statement of the dispute

User:Keetoowah makes violent personal attacks on other users.

Description

User:Keetoowah is aggressive, taunts makes personal attacks on talk pages. Some of these attacks include nationalistic provocations. Keetowah seems to consider that any editor who does not support his point of view is a necessarily a supporter of John Kerry or Al Gore, and attacks accordingly.

Evidence of disputed behavior

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  1. Taunt on Gore / Kerry / Dukakis [1] against User:Rama
  2. Nationalistic personal attack on User:David.Monniaux [2] in answer to a call not to make taunts with respect to US internal politics [3]

Applicable policies

  1. Wikipedia:No personal attacks

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

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  1. Attempt at warning user of disruptive behavior [4]
  2. Attempt at warning user about irrelevant taunts on Talk pages [5]

Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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  1. David.Monniaux 11:53, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  2. Rama 12:56, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Other users who endorse this summary

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  1. Rhobite 21:56, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC). A pretty clear-cut case, Wikipedia isn't a debate site. Keetoowah, if you're interested in working on an encyclopedia you're welcome here. If you're only interested in provoking arguments (and kudos to Rama and David for not taking the bait), you've chosen the wrong site. Continuing these attacks will quickly lead to lengthier blocks, and an eventual ban from the site. Rhobite 21:56, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
  2. Seconded. Wikipedia isn't a debate site. 172 07:12, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Response

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Outside view

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From what I've read on the talk page I concluded that Keetoowah is an obnoxious user, who tried to provocate or depreciate with the aid of personal attacks and unjust generalizations. Apparently he disrespects users only because of their citizenship. Other contributions of him make me consider him to be a bit obnoxious and arrogant in general but usually he does not insult - this is an exception.

"I'm so sorry for you" is a sarcastic personal attack.

"What's it like living in a former world power that is nothing but an impotent, second-rate country with an inferiority complex???" is an insulting attack against the other user's country, but the attack can also be considered personal as Keetoowah replaced "France" with "you" in the following sentences.

"It tees you off that no one and I mean no one pays any damn attention to you any more" is an accusation based on the simple stereotype he has in mind.

"so much so that you have to buy Saddam's oil off of the black market and invade third world countries like the Ivory Coast and then lecture Americans" slander based on stereotype.

"We just laugh at you. Have Frog Day!!!" arrogant, personal attack.

Users who endorse this summary (sign with ~~~~):

  1. Deep Black 22:16, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  2. 172 07:14, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

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