Talk:George Bush
- Make this a disambiguation page (6)
- sv, Montréalais, Martin, Pizza Puzzle, Uncle Ed, Evercat
- Sometimes George Bush refers to Bush the Younger, plus incoming links
- Make this point to George W. Bush, when all links to the elder Bush have been fixed to point to George H. W. Bush, then make this a disambiguation page when GWB ceases to be U.S. president (1)
- This page refers specifically to Bush the Elder (3)
- Camembert, mav, rmhermen
- this is natural disambiguation at its best - compare John Adams and John Quincy Adams
- But [[John Adams]'s full name was John Adams while George Bush's is George H. W. Bush. And increasingly, his son is being called George Bush, unlike the days of his presidential campaign when the "W" was emphasized. Jiang
I agree with Jiang, and as time goes by his argument will gain potency. If the 21st century's first U.S. president continues to make a name for himself, at some point the unmarked term George Bush will start to refer to the son, while the father will start to be better known as George H. W. Bush or "Bush Senior" or the like. I'm not sure we've reached that point yet, but I'm pretty sure we will reach it sooner or later. Uncle Ed 15:45 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Case in point: [[1]]
- George W. Bush is being referred to as simply George Bush
JohnOwens wrote (I'm not sure it counts as "skydiving" if you're doing it to save your butt.)
- He had to jump out of a plane - after leaving office - to save his own butt? -Jazz77
I changed the referrence to the bar scanner story to "apocryphal" - according to a number of otherwise reliable sources (see http://www.snopes.com/history/american/bushscan.htm ), it was concocted from a visit to a technology conference, where Bush was politely interested in how these worked. It was then picked up and used by many writers. (incidentally - I made this error myself, see http://www.acm.org/ubiquity/views/e_andersen_6.html )
I think we should move this page to "George H. W. Bush" because it has been common usage to also refer to his son as "George Bush." This would clear any confusion as to which George Bush we would be referring to. It would also be more consistent to recognize the middle names of both. Yes, his son is also George Bush (even though he has a "W" in between). This George Bush has an "H. W."--same thing! Jiang
- If George Bush remains a redirect to George H. W. Bush then that is OK. Better yet would be for somebody to fix all the links here to either point to Bush the elder or Bush the younger and have this be a disambiguation page. Not something I'm willing to do at the moment. --mav 01:08 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Hmm, it's the other way around, George H. W. Bush is a redirect to George Bush... it probably would be better to have the article on G.B. senior at George H. W. Bush, wouldn't it? Evercat 01:15 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- Mav, fixing all the links would take a lot of time; there are dozens of 'em. Let's wait a couple of months, and if a consensus emerges by then I will be happy to undertake the task, in the way you direct.
- Quiz of the day: which Lord of the Rings character was described as "very good, always helps"? (Bonus question: who worded the description that way?) --Uncle Ed 15:52 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- I've spent the past day changing the "George Bush" in many articles to "George H. W. Bush". I probably missed a sizeable number of them. I think we should switch the articles as a temporary measure (move this article to "George H. W. Bush") and have this one redirect there. The disambiguation page can be made later on.Jiang 17:44 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- If enough of us whittle away at the ambiguous links to "George Bush" (most can be resolved by the date of the context), we could be ready to change this around in about a week. I just sorted out seven. The Anome 12:21 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- Progress report: There are now just 67 references from non-talk pages to "George Bush" without specifying which one. If just ten are fixed each day, the job will be complete within a week. The Anome 09:48 14 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- Progress report: There are now less than thirty ambiguous article-space Bushes left. The Anome
- Progress report: There are now less than ten ambiguous article-space Bushes left. The Anome
- Progress report: Now there's only one, Jorge Ramos, because I didn't know which it was supposed to point to... Evercat 19:23 14 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Cool, the last one's been taken care of. Unless there are any last-minute objections, and since we seem to have won the vote, I'll move the page to George H. W. Bush, create the disambiguation page and fix the redirects. Evercat 19:47 14 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Yay! The Anome 19:47 14 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Im a little confused why George Bush was redirected to George H. W. Bush Pizza Puzzle