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Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need any questions answered about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or drop me a line. BTW, The Grand Old Opry is great a stub entry - I went ahead and "wikified" it so that it looks and works like other wikipedia articles. You might want to take a look at it. Cheers! --maveric149

Hi Ortolan88,
I've knot been ignoring you. Just a little slow to find my way around. I found maveric149 and your tips helpful and just getting up to speed now.
I've responded to some of your questions knot,bowline. Your comments have been on the mark and appreciated. Please continue. I am going to focus on building the basic articles. After that I'll fine tune each article incorporating your comments and all round get more conversant.
Later I'll add pictures for each method of tying knots. Big job!

Satsun, Friday, June 21, 2002

Howdy! You wanted some pointers, so here they are: Generally it is a bad idea to start a message in a talk page by bolding a word like "attitude" or saying things such as "I'm not looking for a fight." -- even when prompted by another user's rude remarks (I didn't see anything really rude on the talk page BTW). These types of statements immediately gets the other person on the defensive and may skew the way they read what you say -- sometimes assuming you are saying something you don't intend. Just try to sound nice and constructive -- even when being nice is not called for. That way the person you are talking with shouldn't have reason to become overly defensive and might even agree with your constructive criticism. Facts and logic become irrelevant when feelings get involved. --maveric149, Sunday, June 23, 2002

Ortolan, WRT your problems with the database responsiveness, Lee Daniel Crocker has been working on another major revision to the wikipedia software which should hopefully improve responsiveness a lot. IIRC, one of the big slowdowns is when the search engines come and crawl the 'pedia. --Robert Merkel

I just saw your comment at Famous military writers about "one-liners". Previously I tended to limit the scope of that term to stand-up comedy, but your usage is so appropriate. I share your apparent belief that long lists of names don't inspire anything other than deletion. This is especially so when the name is wikied to a non-existent article. Placing a name or other list element in a time, place and activity context makes it a lot more meaningful. Perhaps we have the seed of another wikipedia rule proposal here. Eclecticology, Saturday, June 29, 2002 When I read "one-liners" it reminded me of Henny Youngman (1906-1998) - "King of the one-liners". What you say suggests that we may need a disambiguation page for one-liners. I've been filling in some of the key data when I can. Still, no one knows better why an item is being put on a list than the person who puts it there. Fame is just another subjective concept; we can only hope that the really famous will shine through. -Ec

Anyway, http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=bah shows that you're right. I'd misremembered the severity of "bah" (probably due to the cartoonish treatment Ebenezer Scrooge gets?) I'm usually not so scornful. Cheers, Koyaanis Qatsi

Here is a good site for online conversions you might find useful. http://www.onlineconversion.com/ Cheers! --maveric149, Wednesday, July 10, 2002

WRT movie entries: Years are insufficient to disambiguate movies since different movies with the same title sometimes come out in the same year--sometimes on different subjects, sometimes not. Directors are insufficient to disambiguate titles because directors sometimes direct remakes of their own movies. More reasons to cover all works with the same title and same source material "under one roof," as it were. So far I haven't felt strongly enough about it to make it an issue, though I've felt for awhile that the disambiguation efforts on wikipedia in general have exceeded the useful and are now approaching the ridiculous. Koyaanis Qatsi, Thursday, July 11, 2002

I haven't written the spiderworts article yet. And I took the picture before I knew they were most known as weeds, so I should reshoot the picture to show the rest of the plant. Currently all it shows is the flowers.

So far as the disambiguation goes--I prefer to wait until there's enough to make a solid article for the disambiguated sense too, but others don't, so o-bla-di o-bla-da. I don't give it much thought, though I generally dislike stubs. But I'm guilty of starting a number of stubs myself, so I'll just put the stone back down.  :-)

Here are your spiderworts. Article to come (and it'll probably be another stub....) File:Spiderworts.jpg Cheers, Koyaanis Qatsi]

Sorry about the Zoe incident -- your words were a bit harsh in the light that Zoe seems to be very sensitive about of late. I just don't want to take the chance of losing Zoe before she gets accustomed to the type of peer review process here. --maveric149

Opps! Thanks for fixing my typo. --maveric149

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