User talk:Schonbrunn

Wrong and Correct

Well I see, however, some of your edits are also wrong as well.

First of all, Copa Airlines is one of American Airlines main enemies so that is true, also, American is in a hard ccompetition with copa airlines, so this facts are all accurate also, codeshare flights are counted as destinations so in total, they are 38 destinations.

Copa also offers red eye flights since I flew to JFK departing in 10:30 to 12:45 so those flights are real indeed.

And finally, Copa is indeed one of the most advanced airlines around the world so erasing this is incorrect.

hope this helps Cpzphantom 19:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok

I just remember that the flight departed at an hour, not sure and when I was in JFK the watch marked 12:35.

This is

Cpzphantom, it seems to me that you have not understood that the point of this whole site is to provide information on different topics with the same type of credibility as an encyclopedia. Here are a few comments in italics on what you posted on my user talk. I'm reproducing here what you posted on my user talk with a few comments:

Well I see, however, some of your edits are also wrong as well.

First of all, Copa Airlines is one of American Airlines main enemies so that is true, also, American is in a hard ccompetition with copa airlines, so this facts are all accurate This is an opinion, not a fact. What do you mean by hard competition? Fleet size? Destinations? Passengers?, Actually in terms of service, performance and technology.

also, codeshare flights are counted as destinations so in total, they are 38 destinations. There you go again. Please, check Copa's press releases and you will find that they do not include codeshare flights as destinations. Codeshare flights to Newark and Houston are operated by Continental with Continental's aircraft. I think I saw a photo of Copa Airlines aircraft in houston, possibly only on hi demands situations?.

Copa also offers red eye flights since I flew to JFK departing in 10:30 to 12:45 so those flights are real indeed. Technically, Red-Eye flights operate from 9:30 PM to 5:00 AM, local time. Copa Airlines flights to JFK and LAX depart Panama around 7:30 PM and arrive at their destinations around 12:00-1:00 AM (given the time differences). They do not qualify as red-eye's. If you flew to JFK departing at 10:30 to 12:45, then you did not fly Copa! it was 12:35 pm, did red eye flights only are valid with the departing hour and the arriving hour and not only one of the two?

And finally, Copa is indeed one of the most advanced airlines around the world so erasing this is incorrect. Once again, opinion, actually, that's from the website itself.

I do not have a problem with you contributing. Just make sure to get your facts straight before posting wrong information. Schonbrunn 00:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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http://www.copaair.com/html/user/default.aspx?PageId=42

will this answer your question.

At least change them yourself

I found that Gulfstream International Airlines are indeed one of Copa Airlines partners, second of all, Copa indeed will open destinations to port of spain, just put them as Future destinations that's all and finally, Copa features award-winning services just like it's partner mexicana, so please, if I cannot correct this wrong edits, please correct them, all is on Copa Airlines webpage in About Us.

Just wanna enlarge this article and add more detailed info. and about the banner, it was just too big and gustavo rojas pinilla flies to two or more destinations so that explains why it is a focus city, but I think there are more to cover.

Copa's webpage also says the routes their aircraft operates so I'm correct.

Hope you correct the wrong edits, Peace. 200.75.242.211 18:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My edits are correct, I have all my facts are true, then edit this article yourself, you're the wrong one, you didn't know that Gulfstream International Airlines is a partner airline of Copa or that Copa has won prizes or even that an airport with two or more destinations is considered a focus city, you are the one who should give up. 201.224.23.176 02:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

well, the Mexicana airlines article says, Award-winning. see it for yourself and second of all, note that Gulfstream International Airlines if I cannot do something, do all that by yourself, they add, details, what if someone would wish to fly to Port of spain, giving this explanation will clear its mind and confirm him that he will be able to fly to POrt of spain soon, also, the article is too little and it looks like a stub, so you should enlarge it, An example will be Mexicana, American Airlines etc...

Something

Actually, Edcoan was not a sockpuppet, it was a friend of mine which I gave some notes, but I'm dowebs, also, I didn't intended to do any kind of damage here on wikipedia, I gave some info to Edcoan, but he decided to add that information all by himself, I never influenced him into doing something and he was quite new to wikipedia then, and Copa Airlines page is outdated, copa now has 38-40 destinations according to Copa's website, just start counting the destinations in the destinations drop down list in the main page, and look to the news about new boeing 737-800 on Copa's fleet, and, by the way, what does not add agregate value.

Cpzphantom- [email protected]

PS: I flew with Copa and gave edcoan a few notes about the airline, he added then unintetionally, so he doesn't deserve a block.

Still I have some...

There are three problems with several things.

1. I think nobody cares for the Copa Airlines article, I think more images and more info should be added in the main info on the top, also, what happened to images, no one has added or even cared on taking photos of Copa Airlines airplanes, the article is plain and will never receive a better rating on the scale.

2. there are three wrong facts about tocumen, 1. Copa indeed controls most of the air traffic in tocumen along with continental airlines, almost all the airport is full of Copa and continental airplanes; 2. tocumen is indeed the BUSIEST AIRPORT IN ALL Central America and the third and main international airport in Panama, and lastly, any airport offering transcontinental travels to europe is considered an intercontinental airport.

Several key info is needed to be provided on each article and Copa and Tocumen articles lack that credibility, if you correct the wrong facts on my Copa airlines edits, you'll see that ther is nothing bad in them, again, trying to help, but you don't care and where did you got all the knowledge of Copa, are you Panamanian or not.

Hi Schon, i received your message, i'm not an admin, i've been trying to fix the mess that Cpzphantom kid is doing in Wikipedia, especially to articles related Panama. That guy is a real pain in the sack... i'm tired of him, i've even emailed him asking him politelly to stop it, but he doesn't get it, what can we do? should we ask to block every page that dude tries to edit? --Metalclaus 21:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Will you care on explaining me what are considered unconstructive edits, if you tell me I'll stop posting them, since I don't know what is considered an unconstructive edit. literelly, will you explain me?

Cpz: Hey dude just use the common sense, if you lack it, then try not to post before discussing it with other persons, take in account that you have been blocked for all your horrible mistakes. Man, solo usa tu sentido comun, si no lo tienes trata de no postear antes de discutirlo con otros, pero toma en cuenta que has sido bloquiado por todos tus errores. --Metalclaus 22:18, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK

well, about the busiest, there is no example, ok that is ok, but about the other airport they are Marcos A. Gelabert and Enrique Malek International Airport, but, I think Marcos A. gelabert cancelled international flights to Costa Rica.

Ok so mentioning that all the aircraft in Copa's fleet feature winglets its unconstructive?

Finally

Thanks for adding images for the copa airlines article, still, more should be added, but its OK for now, you have our thanks and as I promised, I will leave the article in your hands. (but the logo is too big, shrink it a little.)

eh,

I'm not trying to be abusive or something this time but in those edits, will you care on indicating me what parts where disruptive and why did they were disruptive.

CpzPhantom

Hey this guy also targets Invasion of Panama article, i asked an Admin hor help over there but not much done. i'm worried about his insistence, it seems we are dealing with a retarded.--Metalclaus 15:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I heard that! and there should be a way we can end this rivalry.

What?

what was wrong, what didn't added no value, I said everything that is true, isn't publicitary and is fully legal and allowed then what's wrong?

It doesn't matter, as you can see this edits could be deemed as wrong or disruptive but they aren't, as you can see, those aren't POV's they are facts, if you quit them it would be vandalism as well, and I know, Wikipedia articles need proof, I understand that and I can find you right, sourced proof which says the truth and is official, but if you don't give me time I can't find something, give me time to at least search for this facts and give proof that my reasons here are not to do damage. If my english is not profficient, then how do you read it. please note that you are becoming a vandal to for erasing facts, but this can be fixed if I give you proof for the moment, but give me time to do this.

But, why did you erased those images.

True it is, the Langosto is a plague

He doesn't get that the only way to stop this "rivalry" is keeping himself out of Wikipedia. He's such a fool thinking that his modus operandi will work someday. CpzPhantom and friends (Edcoan, Dowebs, Kokaflores & Langosto): I wanted you all to read my comment... but not kidding, do you have any mental illness or are you just plain stupid? Schon: congrats for keeping that guy on a leash, i really apreciate your tenacity, we can't leave guys like that plaguing this community.--Metalclaus 04:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, I was just trying to help is writing carrier instead of airline is doing damage, I'm almost always a good person but you are making me a real vandal, I haven't do something that does damage, again, Copa has focus cities, In san andres, comalapa and several other airports, and the fleet, they don't have routes? or notes, or passenger distribution, you gotta be kidding, and WHAT DO YOU HAVE WITH THE IMAGES THEY BOTHER YOU, AND view of the Hub Of the Americas, that isn't the hub of the americas, that's A TARMAC AND JETWAYS at the hub of the americas, the only problem is that you don't care for the articles value, if adding, it holds partnership adds no value then the article will all of sudden become a stub, but duh it appears that I'm not only like a shadow, millions of persons and several friends have said things like, wikipedia is as reliable as a blind dog guarding a paper entrance, realy, not lying, I give you my word, and I tried to clean wikipedia's name but it appears that a person with different ideas than the rest of the public is a vandal.

Vandals defame an article and damage it by erasing info that is true and that doesn't either damage or improve the article, that in the book of style is called Neutral content that can be left in an article just to add extra info, I have seen vandalism examples, and my or, Edcoan edits doesn't even get near that fields, also, they do it simply cause they want to do damage, I do it cause I think is good to give people last minute info and to know the lastest releases and changes, believe me, at 19, I worked in several newsgroups being the best one for 3 times and in wikipedia they say my english is not proficient, I took ESL trainings and preparation.

I just wanted to leave my last message before I go away, Ok celebrate kids! Cpzphantom and Edcoan are going away from wikipedia, at least at Citizendium are more fellow. what a quering group.--Cpzphantom 18:10, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's cause you haven't done anything

Oh, come on, you know as well as me that all that info is all true, you think I will be editing stupidness, but I wasn't him, despite the fact that I knew him somewhere, he had a blogspot account, you are thinking on things that had nothing to do with the airline, or are you contrradicting the SAME AIRLINE PEOPLE search in the UK site he placed there, I read it, for nothing he pasted the description and he possibly killed himself searching all that info, check in the copaairlines.co.uk frontpage and you'll see how much you four are wrong, you says that his, my and our content is disruptive, I don't see what was disruptive, and I think he did what I did with the routes as well, he searched all the Copa flights and concluded that certain aircraft flies certain destinations, If i weren't him, I would simply have restored langosto edits, I would not search again for new info, and what the hell you have about images, why do you have about images?...