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Hi, sorry I havent replied sooner, I am away on holiday. I have several other images of wikipedia, including some of the many scout flags around the island and in the church. I also have some images of the camp itself, the stones, the camp shop as well as memorobillia, stickers etc which I could upload as images. I actually live just across from the island at Poole and am planning a trip over in July. If theres any specific things you wanted I will be taking my camera along etc. Let me know what images you want. Regards, LordHarris 12:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have uploaded several images of Brownsea Island to wikicommons. I have uploaded three image of the stone onto wikicommons, hopefully one of them will be of use to you as a replacement. Unfortunately I do not have an image of the actual campground though I will get one in about three weeks when I go the island.

As for the actual campsite, the land is not all cleared. The campsite is compartmentalised, with the stone, shop (selling lots of scout memorbillia and where you pay for the site), the flags, destination signs etc all in one area. Radiating off from this are many small camp zones, perhaps a few acres each, surrounded by trees, fences. There are some seperate rubbish, water collection areas etc. A lot of the campsite lies on the edge of the cliff. There are some toilet facilities but at my last time of a visiting, a group of scouts had set up their own facilities. Interestingly, the camp site is often used by people other than scouts, or at least there were often single tents, one or two tents of adults etc, alone in seperate areas. The church as I recall has an altar devoted the scouting movement as well as about a dozen scout flags and a memorial to Baden powell. Ill try and get as much information as I can to expand the article when I visit in July, as well as some photos of the scouting memoribillia, signs etc if you would like. Hope thats of help. LordHarris 09:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

... umm, you do know that's the name of a place in England, right? [1] - Alison 16:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then it'd be blockable indefinitely as promoting a business in addition to using a religious figure's name. Rlevse 16:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a business, it's a place ... in Somerset. How and ever - not worth fighting over :) - Alison 16:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The link you provided had a page with "order online" tab. Rlevse 16:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It is a location in Somerset see Godminster Lane Quarry and Railway Cutting. You can also do a google map search for Godminster, England. I also found a BBC report that claimed it arguably had the smallest pub in England. Note as pronounced the word 'God' in it is about as recognizable as 'Christ' is in Christopher. Would a user called Christopher be banned or for that matter Godfrey? The business by the way is "Godminster Manor Farm" located in Godminster.--Erp 04:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It could still be seen as promotional. But, submit it to Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User_names if you like. I'll be on vacation all next week starting Sunday and won't have computer access. Whatever comes out of that I won't object. Rlevse 10:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I've brought it up on WP:RFCN in the interests of fairness. Enjoy the break! - Alison 19:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It looks fine to me. Can you try clearing your cache? --BigDT 03:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


A while back you (and others who appeared to be pals of yours) refused to accept any mention of Gang Show in this article.

The reasoning employed was that the Gang Show was limited in its geographic range although there is plenty of evidence to the contrary.

I now note that you have included (or permitted the inclusion) of quite US centric information such as the suggestion that the use of firearms is a widespread scouting activity and also the use of the term "Camporee" which is I believe is limited to North America.

Before I amend these and similar references can you provide me with any evidence that these are not restricted to a few geographic areas or can I go ahead and include a reference to Gang Shows now? Albatross2147 07:39, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Double Redirects on Rover Motorsport and Mudbash

Thanks for clearing these up - i meant to do them but forgot about them. :: maelgwn :: talk 13:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

blocking user

Thanks for blocking that user - he was really starting to geto n my nerves, only trying to make the encyclopedia better and he comes around insulting me - fun -_- MattieTK 22:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What wikibreak...

and here I thought that somebody would have come up with a way to access the Net from the woods... Which scout camp did you goto?Balloonman 18:19, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pipsico. Next week the camp goes to Powhatan at Blue Ridge Mtn Council, but I'm not going on that one.Rlevse 11:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History of the Luftwaffe during World War II

Hi.

Just wanted your opinion on the revamp in this article. I have corrected the omissions you have pointed out. I hope this stands the test. I have put a lot of effort into changing and expanding this article over the last few months, and I hope it can be recognised as a good article. If there are any problems let me know on my talk page and I'll correct them A.S.A.P.

Thanks.Dapi89 19:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See article talk page.Rlevse 11:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request to mediate

Request to mediate or decide in the article Islam in Myanmar in which you punished me but failed to resolve the issue proper.--Darz kkg 07:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't do mediation. Try the mediation process.Rlevse 11:29, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Standards

I will be out to Camp Shenandoah for the week on Sunday. Please review these standards and post them when you think they are ready. I suggest that we start a whole new section for WikiProject Scouting Manual of Style and post these as separate pages under that.

Thanks! --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think Ed has done a great job, but I really do think we need to internationalize them before we add them. I am not sure how best to do this. --Bduke 23:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Randy won't be back until tomorrow afternoon. The references and footnotes guideline should be universal, but the local Scouting articles guideline is definitely not, and clearly states such in the opening message box. I welcome any discussion on how to open this to a world-wide view- I suggest using the guidelines talk page. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 00:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ed, this is superb. Bduke, Ed clearly states the local article guideline is for BSA and it should be used as a springboard. This was developed as such because of severe continuing problems within the BSA area of the project. As for internationalization, you are more expert in that area than I and if you'd like to do that, please do so and we will add it to the Manual of Style. I'll make our MofS a subsection of our Rules and Standards.Rlevse 11:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brownsea

The camp lies on the southern portion of the island, slightly to the right of centre. Its about a 15 minute stroll from the main visior centre near the castle in the east. If you look at the map - http://www.multimap.com/map/places.cgi?client=public&lang=&advanced=&keepicon=true&quicksearch=brownsea+island its those two white squares to the far west of the castle, but not the one at the very end. There are several other clearings as well as a few small buildings which are not marked. The stone is at the centre, although it reads stone, the position is not marked on the map. LordHarris 19:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC) The stone is a li[reply]

Welcome back. The article is shaping up. — ERcheck (talk) 23:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have sent you an email with a map from the National Trust, the camp is clearly marked. Hope that helps. LordHarris 12:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

East Carolina University

Hello, I am asking if you could give East Carolina University a peer-review. I want to add the article to the Good article candidates list. Thank you, PGPirate

THere is no see also section. I think all that bolding violates the Manual of Style.Rlevse 19:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have listed this article and the user under this name at WP:COIN. Bearian 17:16, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sahraoui Scout Association

Hey there. I finally bothered to look into the whole Sahraoui Scout Association thing, and it looks like neither Chris's nor Juiced Lemon's edits are really verfiable. I left a long message about the situation at User talk:Juiced lemon under the "Prod" subheading. Would you mind taking a look at the situation? I'm not intimately familiar with Scouting organizations abroad, and my French and Spanish are kind of rusty. I'm not even going to bother trying to read the Arabic. ;) But that's what I gathered from the sources I looked at. — Rebelguys2 talk 13:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for helping. I'm looking into it to and emailed Chris. He says he has letters on this so I suggested uploading to wikisource. Yes, this region is very hard to get any info on, much less Scouting and the fact that its control is disputed doesn't help. Some other project members are helping too.Rlevse 13:29, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Scouting 2007uniform.jpg needs a source + fair use rationale. Other than that, the image copyrights are fine, but the images are really rather jumbled, particularly on large monitors. Maybe some of them could be turned into a gallery or moved to the left side? Also, I brightened Image:Brownsea_Island_Scout_Camp_2.JPG a bit. It was rather dark. --BigΔT 18:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I fixed the FU on that image. Wim or I will play with image layout.Rlevse 18:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On a wide screen (2000px) indeed, the article doesn't fold well. Originally, I did a right-column of pictures, which is the most common method of article illustration but result in this behaviour. Randy made a two-column layour, which is frowned up in WP:MOS. I tried a gallery, which is discouraged in WP:Galleries. Bottomline, there simply are too many pictures. I propose weeding. Watch me. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 19:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's what i'd figured we'd have to do. Though, I wish there were a way to keep the modern pic of the campsite today in.Rlevse 20:03, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's done. I tried it out on wide screen with small font (not really useful for reading), and did not see cluttering. Actually, the two pictures that I removed will not be sorely missed. Perhaps after the summer, a better picture of the campsite can be put up, e.g., one showing a real campsite with lots of tents and stuff. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 20:09, 8 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]
    • To be honest, the pic that you brought back in? It doesn't really add any information to the article at all: it is just a green field! I narrowed the table next to it a little bit more to allow the picture more room. But unless a better campsite picture (see above), I wouldn't mind getting rid of this one, even brightened by Big DeltaT. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 22:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]
I agree it's not the greatest pic of the campsite, with tents or Scouts in action would be great. But since we don't have one of those, let's leave it in on the idea that it's better than nothing as it at least gives people an idea of what the area looks like. Do you know if Harry is a real British Lord? I'll ask that if he's ever there to take the desired pic, but no need to make a special trip or anything.Rlevse 22:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't buy the 'better than nothing' this time: why does a swath of green give anyone a serious idea? And I think Harry is British alright, but I'd guess his rights to any title end with his recent BA degree. Fortunately for him, as I understand it, he just has to pick up his camera, walk to the quay in his home town Poole, and take the 2 mile ferry to the island. He may well have to walk more ON the island than TO it. That doesn't take anything off that his actually doing it, making very nice pictures out of it, AND making them available in the article is very highly appreciated. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 22:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]
I'd still prefer to leave it in for now.Rlevse 22:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. I highly respect your opinions on these matters. No problem.Rlevse 23:03, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, sorry to disapoint but I have no claims to a lordship. LordHarris is just an old gaming username of mine. As for the photos I've no plans to go again for several weeks as I'm a bit busy with work and other things. I'll be off again to Brownsea in the first week of August however, as a few friends of mine are planning a camping trip ourselves. I will make a determined effort to get some of the campsite when its packed full (given the centenary and the possibility of sun...). Ive supported the FA run and heres hoping it passes. LordHarris 00:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the current trend of going hard against FU, I was already expecting the response we now got. I'm expecting we'll have to give in, as indeed FU states that the said picture is only allowed on the one article that it is about. Any other (illustrative) use is out. I let you do the math. Pity, but that's the way things are going. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 21:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Yes indeed a pity, I'm well aware too, but I won't go down without a fight-;) You are indeed likely correct on having to get rid of the pic, but if you don't mind, I'd like to wait til BigDT answers my query. He's often been aware of things I'd never think of since pictures are his specialty. He's come through many times. Rlevse 21:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 2007 GAC backlog elimination drive

A new elimination drive of the backlog at Wikipedia:Good article candidates will take place from the month of July through August 12, 2007. There are currently about 130 articles that need to be reviewed right now. If you are interested in helping with the drive, then please visit Wikipedia:Good article candidates backlog elimination drive and record the articles that you have reviewed. Awards will be given based on the number of reviews completed. Since the potential amount of reviewers may significantly increase, please make sure to add :{{GAReview}} underneath the article you are reviewing to ensure that only one person is reviewing each article. Additionally, the GA criteria may have been modified since your last review, so look over the criteria again to help you to determine if a candidate is GA-worthy. If you have any questions about this drive or the review process, leave a message on the drive's talk page. Please help to eradicate the backlog to cut down on the waiting time for articles to be reviewed.

You have received this message either due to your membership with WikiProject: Good Articles and/or your inclusion on the Wikipedia:Good article candidates/List of reviewers. --Nehrams2020 23:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed Image:Signe-de-piste fin-de-piste.jpg while going through the images Gadget850 asked me to look at. It's a JPEG of two circles. Do you know what the dimensions are supposed to be (how thick the circles are, spacing, colors, etc)? (Is there a photo of the original or anything?) If so, I can very easily make an SVG version. I made a couple cool football SVGs - see Image:American football positions.svg - and I can easily do one of this if you know what it should look like. --BigΔT 23:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

afraid not. as it's an old symbol, there's probably no standard. Rlevse 00:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I found it! [2] I'll make an SVG later on tonight. By the way, can you take a look at my note on my talk page about merit badges? I don't know how much this would be worth pursuing - I really don't know the answer to the question - things published pre-1978 without a copyright notice are supposedly public domain, so some of these patches might be - we need a lawyer to figure it out, though. --BigΔT 00:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nice job on the headstone.Rlevse 00:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I had this on my todo list for a while. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup template

  • I just created {{Cleanup-Scouting}} to tag articles that need to be brought in line with standards. Please review it before I announce it.

--Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, but it says the same thing as our attention tag, just more detailed and obvious.68.10.192.194 21:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What attention tag? I only see a stub tag. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 12:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Go to Template:ScoutingWikiProject, Category:Scouting_articles_needing_attention, and see Talk:John_Cornwell as an example. We could use both this and your template.Rlevse 12:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did not know the project template could do that. I think my template is redundant then. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 12:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please

Please delete all the revisions to my userpage made by RugbyMan 005 as he is a Molag Bal sockpuppet and it includes my first name, after this they will need oversighting, please delete them quick or just delete my userpage. =). Please be quick.... Rlest 12:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted your whole page. You can recreate it easily. I also block the guy for 48 hours.Rlevse 12:05, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Per WPS:TEMP: "{{Scouting Barnstar}} This is for outstanding contributions to Scouting on Wikipedia. We don't actually use this. See recognitions section."

So- do we use this template? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 12:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]