Talk:Education in Germany

Universities want moving to List of universities in Germany, which is actually a shorter list atm, which is very silly. Morwen 19:31, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Details about college taken (with curtesy) from www.stormarnschule.de ly 14:30, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Can we have a word about the new bachelor degrees - unfortuantely I have no info on hand... THANKS. Michael

____ of course there are scholarships in Germany, but they are not as frequent as in the US, as education is still free and therefore you can finance yourself by working -another reasons why it takes so long to get a degree --Yak 13:49, Feb 19, 2004 (UTC)

What is the difference between Gymnasium, Fachochschule and Kollegschulen? Clear definition of Kollegschulen would be great...Thanks, Jo

I can't tell you much about Kollegschulen, but a Gymnasium is sort-of equivalent to a high school (plus perhaps 2 years of college), while a Fachhochschule rather corresponds to a college, maybe also to college + grad school (M. Sc.) -- while "real" universities rather provide a broad theoretical background, which (afaik) does not exist in this way in the US education until you do a PhD.

If you let me know where in the text you'd like a better explanation/differentiation between Gymnasium and Fachhochschule, I'll be glad to do it -- but being german myself, those things are so familiar that I probably don't see missing parts in the article.

best, --Pinguin.tk 22:09, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

chosen languages

"Achievements in the subjects... the chosen language, mostly English, French or Latin"
English is no chosen language but a normal subject every student has to achieve (in all states as far as I know) -Phil-

Unless they changed rules in that aspect since my Gymnasium time, students have to take a first foreign language in 5th grade and a second one in 7th grade. A third one is usually offered as a choice, starting in (I think) 10th grade. In most schools, there is no choice of the first language, and in most schools the first language is English. However, this was not universally so even in state schools - some Saarland schools close to the French border offered French, and I think some schools in the former GDR offered Russian as a first language. For the second language, the normal choice is between French or Latin. But again, some schools offer English (if not first foreign language), Old Greek, Russian, or Spanish. Some non-state schools have an even wider range. --Stephan Schulz 01:16, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

As far as I know Saarland is the only state with French as fisrt language. I still go to school and where I come from - in Thuringia - there are some differences between the schools. The Gymnasium I used to go to taught English as first language from Year 5 on, and in Year 7 you had to choose French, Russian or Latin as second language. Now I go to another Gymnasium, which offers two languages from Year 5 on (English and French) but also one language in Year 5 (English, French or Russian) as well as from Year 7 on. In Year 9 you can take Latin, and from Year 11 on you can start with Latin, French or Russian. --slg 17:03, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

At my Gymnasium in Baden-Würtemberg we could chose between English and Latin as the first language. A friend of mine picked Greek as his second language and never had English at school. Markus Schmaus 19:24, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)