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Are we saying the language groups are p-Celtic and q-Celtic or p-Gaelic and q-Gaelic? I have seen bith on the web. --rmhermen

The correct technical terms are definitely p-Celtic and q-Celtic. Since Gaelic is q-Celtic, there can be no such thing as q-Gaelic. Welsh is definitely not Gaelic but it is p-Celtic. Whereas speakers of Irish and Scots Gaelic will understand each other fairly well, neither of them will understand a Welsh speaker. The languages are as different as English and Dutch, both of which are Germanic languages. -- Derek Ross

shouldn't this artical be named "Gaelic languages"?

Yes it should. So I moved it. -- Jim Regan 14:57 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

That's odd, why is that attributed to me? Anyway, it's sorta redundent how the article states Gaelic is part of the Goidelic branch of the Celtic languages, the Gaelic languages are the Goidelic branch. Starting with Old Gaelic ('Old Irish'/ Goidelic) you end up with the three modern languages. I think the Brythonic article says something similiarly unenlightening...

Sorry 'bout that, hit the wrong link :( I did a basic merge on the articles, but there's still some redundancy. -- Jim Regan 18:01 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The information about Cornish and Manx is somewhat misleading. The article says they are nearly extinct; in fact they are by all means extinct in that the last traditional native speakers died in 1777 and 1974 respectively. Both are now being revived (Cornish/Cornic also reconstructed) and there are a number of new native speakers (children of fluent learners who decided to raise their children with Manx or Cornish on a par with English) in both countries.

Przemek Kasprzyk

In fact there are now believed to be more native speakers of Scots Gaelic in Nova Scotia than there are in Scotland.

This is false. There are only about a 1,000 native speakers left in Nova Scotia centered around Cape Breton. There are about 60,000 native speakers left in Scotland. This down from 70,000 from the last survey taken in the early 1990's. See Silicon Glen's Scotland FAQ Census figures for Gaelic speakers http://www.siliconglen.com/Scotland/7_14.html for more details. -- Chris Merle

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