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If you are listed here, then you may comment on the accusation that you are a problem user and ask that your name be taken off the list. You may not remove yourself from this page.

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In general, time spent publically complaining about other users is less productive than an equal amount of time spent writing encyclopedia articles. Still, if you must complain, please:

  • Do not add a user to this page without deep meditation on the subject. Be sure that your addition will be productive, and beneficial to the encyclopedia.
  • First discuss the issues with the user in question, and do everything in your power to get a resolution that way. In many cases it's possible to resolve the issue with discussion, without getting the rest of the community involved.
  • Be specific in your criticism. Give diff links to individual edits that demonstrate the problem. Say exactly why you find these edits a problem.
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Recommendations for removing text from this page

  • If the consensus after sufficient discussion (perhaps more than a few people) and sufficient time (depends on nature of problem) is that a user is not a problem user, just wipe the entry.
  • If the user in question hasn't edited Wikipedia for a fair while, just wipe the entry.
  • If the situation has been resolved to everyone's satisfaction, or the user has ceased the behaviour that caused the problem, just wipe the entry.
  • If the discussion has become too long for this page, the user is still active, and a number of people agree that the user is still exibiting the problem, then a subpage may be created for the discussion of a particular user. Subpages created inappropriately are subject to immediate deletion.

Wiping the entry may seem a bit callous, but it's all part of the joy of forgive and forget. Since we strongly recommend against anyone ever using this page, we don't mind terribly about deleting stuff on here as it becomes out of date, irrelevant, or just tedious. Besides, there's always the full version history. On the other hand, don't wipe your own entry - leave it to someone else to make that judgement. You can't force forgiveness on the community.

If the consensus (suggested at least 2/3 of people) is that a user is a problem user, has not improved their behavior significantly, and some experienced users agree that banning may be the best option, then it is suggested that you bring it to the attention of Jimbo via private email (unless you are also listed here in which case it is advised that you stay out of it). You can bring it earlier or later if you want, this is just a recommendation.

List of conflicts

Please state the problem you are having with another user.

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LibertarianAnarchist

The discussion about him was moved to User talk:LibertarianAnarchist and notated as "outdated" for some reason. It is true he was inactive for a while, but he's back (including from IP 67.121.94.160). Some users proposed banning, and perhaps now we should consider continuing on that process. -- VV 21:14, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)


User:SmartBee

Has had several pages deleted already because existence of the topic they talked about could not be confirmed. Often not logged in, using IP number 65.218.60.6 and perhaps others. - Andre Engels 12:45, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)

double-voting on Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion/lag time on Nov 2 didn't help his cause... It's a shame that deletion of pages takes them off contribution lists - another for the deletion redesign. Martin 00:12, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)

User:Wanwan

  • A new user who feels it's his right to make policy. Seems to be another sock puppet intent on only putting votes on the VfD page. RickK 04:09, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC)
  • Not entirely sure he's a sock puppet, but certainly behavior is obnoxious and unusual for a 24 hour-old user. Started Wikipedia:Deletion_policy edit war without explaining changes or discussing with others. Fuzheado 04:16, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC)
  • Judging by the logs, either s/he's not Princess Toadstool, or s/he's doing a very good job of pretending. Based on the logs alone, I would say there is no evidence that they're the same. However, Wanwan isn't a newbie. -- Tim Starling 05:50, Oct 29, 2003 (UTC)
  • Not edited since 30th. Martin 19:25, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)




User:Mir Harven

(contribs) Repeatedly blanking and removing material contributed in good faith to controversial discussions (usually relating to Croatian langauge) and replacing them with agressive and threatening replies (eg "Greater Serbian crap about Croatian & Bosnian "newspeak" deleted. Heal your inferiority complexes elsewhere. If this crap persist-you'll get exposed in a way you truly deserve. Mind your own biz and keep out of Croatian lang page with your filthy hate.")Almost impossible to engage, as he repeatedly blanks and erases any attemps. At a loss to know what to do.

Also appears to edit from the 195.29.xxx.xxx range. I don't know who's right, factually and morally speaking, but Mir Harven hasn't really cottoned on to the whole Wikiquette and consensus-editing concepts. -- Cyan 06:59, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Not removing, because still an issue - recent edit: "The page, as it is now is-crap. Another piece of dumb Serbian propaganda, and easily detectable at at that". Could someone else have a word with him? I've already tried to chat to him, so it might be more effective if someone else intervened. Martin 23:23, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)


"special features"

The Cunctator

  • User:The Cunctator is unilaterally removing the VfD header from pages that are still under discussion on the Votes for Deletion page. RickK 03:45, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • They unilaterally undeleted santorum despite being deleted after vfd, and undeletion being supported. Maximus Rex 03:47, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
  • Discussions relating to Daniel C. Boyer are now a Problem users special feature! Gasp as Boyer challenges Kat to explain herself! Thrill at SpeakerFTD's dramatic intervention! Read on at Wikipedia:Problem users/Daniel C. Boyer.

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