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Art

Medieval art (July 2)

Nominated June 18 2005; needs 6 votes by July 2 2005

Reason: needs expansionFenice 12:14, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Support

Fenice 12:14, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
CristianChirita 12:44, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Milena 11:05, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Comments

I am working on this article to be a gateway article, containing very (very) high level summary information, mainly serving as a navigation aide to the corpus of Wikipedia articles that cover this vast subject. I've started work on it and plan on working on it over the next few weeks, laying out the article structures based on known fields of study. I would not recomend this article be a COTW at this time. Stbalbach 04:36, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the article should be turned into a list. Medieval art would make a good overview article. --Fenice 06:09, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's not a "list" it's an outline of what makes up Medieval art. This is a highly specialized field with special terms and areas, its not common knoweldge, there is a reason this article has sat idle for 4 years. If your saying these links could be worked in to a narrative, I would not disagree. Stbalbach 02:22, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

According to the latest updates in the article:

In Western Europe there were seven major periods, or movements, of art in the Middle Ages. In approximate chronological order (with overlap) they are Celtic art, Early Christian art, Migration Period art, Pre-Romanesque art, Romanesque art, Gothic art and Trecento art.

You will notice almost none of these major articles has been developed, or even started. I would suggest we do a COTW on one of the major art movements and get those started. Otherwise, the high level summary will not be in line with whatever gets written later in detail. According to the style guidelines, summaries are usually written last, summarizing the detail. I would suggest Celtic art as a good place to start. Once it is done, a summary of the article can be worked into the Medieval art article, and so on. Stbalbach 02:53, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I will support a nomination of Celtic art on the COTW, good starting point.--Fenice 09:36, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

History of sculpture (July 2)

Nominated June 18 2005; needs 6 votes by July 2 2005

Reason: stops at the renaissance, middle ages missing

Support

--Fenice 09:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
--Vladdraculdragon 09:48, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
--PET 00:03, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comments

This is part of the Medieval art topic above. Once an article on medieval sculpture is created, a summary of it can be worked in to the History of sculpture, and the Medieval art article (and any other appropriate article). But you need a Medieval sculpture article first before you can summarize it :) --Stbalbach 02:57, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sometimes it works the other way around: the sections in the overview article grow larger and larger, and at some point a new article is created as a spin-off, and a summary plus a link to the main article is left at the overview article. In this case, a section on medieval sculpture would be written in Medieval art or History of sculpture and then an article Medieval sculpture would be created.--Fenice 05:32, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

we need pictures and more info

Science

Astrodynamics (July 2)

Nominated June 18 2005; needs 6 votes by July 2 2005

Reason: I've tried to rewrite this turkey, but I have come to realize that I am not expert enough to choose a good high-level structure for this article, and I am not novice enough to know what's generally interesting. --P3d0 06:10, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Support

P3d0 06:10, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
Fenice 18:48, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Imperialles 19:45, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comments

Culture

Spork (July 2)

Nominated June 25, 2005; needs 3 votes by July 2, 2005

Reason: Come on! It's a fork and a spoon! Who could ask for more in a utensil?

Support:

Litefantastic 23:46, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hypnosis (July 9)

Nominated June 18 2005; needs 9 votes by July 9 2005

Reason: This is a long article, but a poor one. It needs a total reorganisation, the input of some experts and more wikilinks and external links. Yes, there are short articles that need to be made longer - but this is a long article, about an important subject, that is not up to scratch yet.

Support

Batmanand 19:16, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Litefantastic 01:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Exir 01:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Niz 00:04, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Rich Farmbrough 20:57, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Fenice 2 July 2005 15:07 (UTC)
Kabads 5 July 2005 18:53 (UTC)
Scott Ritchie 02:03, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Business and Economics

Second Industrial Revolution (July 3)

Nominated June 20 2005; needs 6 votes by July 3 2005
Reason

Support

Fenice 08:56, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Falphin 01:55, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Imperialles 09:00, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comments

Politics

Non-profit organization (July 6)

Nominated June 29 2005; needs 3 votes by July 6 2005
Support:

Fenice 29 June 2005 10:12 (UTC)

Comments:

Should be expanded. --Fenice 29 June 2005 10:12 (UTC)
How much overlap or differentiation between this and NGOs? Maurreen 3 July 2005 21:56 (UTC)

Technology

Textile (July 2)

Nominated June 18 2005; needs 6 votes by July 2 2005

Reason: A broad topic with technological and cultural aspects. This article is off to a good start, but is stagnating. Alot of the article is lists. People from many backgrounds will be able to contribute to this - maybe some good pictures of textiles from different parts of the world.

Support

ike9898 19:44, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
Fenice 09:19, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The Kohninater 04:17, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Loggie July 2, 2005 15:01 (UTC)
Maurreen 2 July 2005 15:33 (UTC)

Comments

This topic is a sub-set of Trade but there is also the Arts and Crafts angle. Import / Export of the fabrics used to make Textiles. AlMac 3 July 2005 20:09 (UTC)

Geography

Alps(July 5)

Nominated June 21 2005;needs 6 votes by July 5 2005
Reason

Support

Falphin 01:55, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Fenice 05:25, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Martg76 21:27, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Guus June 29, 2005 20:35 (UTC)
Phlebas July 5, 2005 12:23 (UTC)

Comments

The article and its subpages are in urgent need of improvement. It might be a good idea to translate some of the pages from the German Wikipedia. Martg76 21:27, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Amsterdam(July 10)

Nominated on 03:50, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC); needs 6 votes by 10 July.

I know this is not a stub, however, this article is surprisingly short compared to other city articles. As mentioned on the talk page by User:Big Brother is Watching, "The Rotterdam article is quite a bit longer. Rotterdam has more than 100,000 people less than Amsterdam and it is commonly reffered to as The Netherlands' second city." Also the article is quite messy and is nothing compared to Paris, for example. ---Hottentot

Support:

Hottentot 03:50, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Fenice 08:33, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Dystopos 20:12, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Jacoplane 21:47, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comments:

If this were to become the improvement drive article, I'm sure we'd be able to get a lot of people from the dutch wikipedia to come and help out. Jacoplane 23:48, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Why is this listed for the second time in as many weeks? The first time it was obvious there was no interest. I also strongly contest Hottentot's characterization that article is "messy"; that is nonesense. As for the Paris article, its length appears to be largely due to numerous lists, such as "List of Paris mayors since the French Revolution" and "Boutiques, department stores and hotels", which IMO doesn't necessarily consititute good encyclopedic writing. This listing was frivolous the first time around, and it is frivolous this time. -- Viajero | Talk 15:01, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]