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Statement of the dispute

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Description

On August 1st, User:Ed Poor, one of wikipedias oldest and most respected admins decided to completly ignore wikipedia standards and practices and deleted Wikipedia:Votes for Deletion without any sort of discussion. This is a gross misuse of admin-powers and should not be tolerated.

Powers misused

  • Deletion (log):
  1. Wikipedia:Votes for deletion [1]

Applicable policies

A clear violation of the deletion policy
A disruption that basically made Wikipedia read-only for a short time because of the complicated delete and subsequent un-delete


Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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  1. gkhan 21:07, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
  2. Tznkai 21:29, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is beyond simple rules and structures and all of that. I think this was flagrantly disrespectful and a breach of trust. I have shared that opinion with Ed and by the looks of his talk page, he disagrees with me. I wish him a happy life, and to continue with bold edits, but I don't think this is what we should have in admins.--Tznkai 21:29, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Other users who endorse this statement

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  1. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 21:53, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Trilobite 21:56, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. I respect Ed Poor as an admin and do not want to see any punishment/discipline for this. However, I have to agree that he acted against the Wiki way in deleting the VfD main page, and that consensus to such a radical move should be reached before such a move is made. That said, it lightened things up for a change ;) Hedley 22:01, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Response

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I'm not sure what this "dispute" is about. I deleted an unpopular page, and somebody else rather quickly undeleted it. Meanwhile, I've started Wikipedia:Requests for deletion which is running 3-to-1 in favor of the deletion.

Somebody please tell me what remains "unresolved". Or is there a policy somewhere that says that actions taken in good faith to fix long-standing problems are de facto against policy? Uncle Ed 21:43, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

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As unilateral policy-making goes, this was a rather clumsy and ineffective maneuver. As abuses of power go, it was even more so. No harm, no foul. Can we just drop it? Eliot 21:59, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Users who endorse this summary (sign with ~~~~):

  1. I'll drop it no problem. Hedley 22:02, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Robert McClenon 22:03, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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