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Why was the hatnote indicating the existence of a dab page, with a very similar name, removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abtract (talk • contribs)

Obviously this. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How exactly does the word "obviously" help? and how does directing me to the edit itself help me understand? Abtract (talk) 19:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Meaning that was the explanation. No use in dodging it. Abtract, if you disagree with WP:NAMB then please take it to Wikipedia talk:Hatnote. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But you directed me to this. How does that help me understand? And I still don't grasp your use of the word "obviously" in this context, please explain. Abtract (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
First off, this isn't helping. Revert blindly again and you'll be in breach of 3rr. I have explained in my edit summary as to why the hat was unhelpful. Please listen to ppl when they tell you you're in the wrong. You need more people to support you on this. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:50, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you could answer my questions which I don't mind repeating to assist you: What does the word "obviously" contribute (and indeed the susequent use of "blindly")? and how does directing me to your rv of my first edit help? Incidentally you have now rv me twice. I will add a further question: Bearing in mind just how close "Friend or FOE?" is to "Friend or Foe" do you really think that it was wrong to include the (rather useful imho) hatnote? Abtract (talk) 20:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Already answered your questions. Of course it was incorrect to place the hat. Inclusively, someone who types in "friend or foe" would never have ended up at "Friend or FOE?". Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These names are so close that there is potential ambiguity imho. And I add "of course it was incorrect" to the list I need to understand how they help. In view of the fact that we disagree on the level of ambiguity I suggest that the note stays until consensus to remove it arises, as it can do no harm. I will therefore return it. Abtract (talk) 20:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And I have therefore removed it because you keep ignoring my responses. Keep in mind that I don't care if we're both blocked for edit warring. STOP NOW! And discuss. My arguement is WP:NAMB, whilst I see none coming from you. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh ... wp:namb is not an argument it is a link. On the other hand, I have given a reasoned statement as to why imho the hatnote can do no harm but has the potential for good (disambiguating good). Throughout I have been the model of politeness whereas you have used the following words and phrases "obviously", "blindly", "of course it was incorrect". I would have thought, in view of our past, that you would have been on your best behaviour but apparently not as you have now rv me 3 times and no doubt if I were to add it back again, you would rv me for a damaging 4th time ... but hey I am going to save you from yourself by not provoking you. I will simply ask for help. Abtract (talk) 21:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme}} perhaps someone could assist us to resolve this minor dispute ... read above, all will be clear

My thought is that the link is appropriate. WP:NAMB is used when no one would come to this article by accident. Friend or Foe? and this article have the same name and can easily be confused and a hatnote is appropriate. GtstrickyTalk or C 21:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there are three albums with the same name. Please replace the hatnote. Thank you GtstrickyTalk or C 21:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You mean use a form of {{distinguish}}? The one Abtract proposes is unhelpful at best. Which do you have in mind? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unhelpful is a little strong. I think it does need to go to the disambiguation page since I don't think you can get enough info into {{distinguish}} to be clear (band names, etc). But since none seem to be clear. Why not forget the template and just type it up?
For other albums and other articles regarding Friend or Foe see the disambiguation page for Friend or Foe
I am not sure I like that either but this is really a minor point. GtstrickyTalk or C 22:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help, I will replace it. Abtract (talk) 22:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please say you are still watching, Gtstricky. Abtract (talk) 22:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why you presume I'm making a WP:POINT when all I've done is place a better and more suitable hat. Gtstricky, can you please tell Abtract to not assume the worst? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is perfectly clear that, when you didn't get your own way above, you looked around for a method of getting the last word. Your petty solution was to split the page Friend or Foe into Friend or Foe and Friend or Foe? (disambiguation) ... the latter having just two entries. You then put a "better hatnote" on this page. I just don't have the energy to revert you more than once so I am hoping Gtstricky is still watching but if not I will seek help again. Abtract (talk) 23:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Again, assume good faith. You keep thinking I'm out to get you and all I'm trying to do is make things less complicated. Since there were plenty of the "Friend or Foe?"-related links I figured may as well have a new disambiguation set up, to avoid confusion. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec)Lets all remember to assume good faith and lets do this... bring any changes here to the talk page and discuss them before making them (regarding the hat). I think you two got off on the wrong foot and you are both just trying to better (in a very small way) this article. This is more a communication issue then anything else. GtstrickyTalk or C 23:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know. The point is to have fun and contribute, and I will bring up any changes to the article here. I think we can move on now. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again ... I have reverted all three to the position following your last intervention; we will discuss the justification for changes here. Abtract (talk) 00:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a bunch Gtstricky. I have undone Abtract's reverts per discussion here. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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