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Re: Formula One

You know, I had the same thought. But I went with automobiles to go with our general conventions. We have Category:Automobiles and Category:Automotive navigational boxes. In fact, if you go to Category:Cars, it redirects you. So cars makes more sense but we seem to go more with "automobiles". --WoohookittyWoohoo! 10:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I see we do have Formula One cars as a cat. I'll change to cars by season. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 10:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that. :) --WoohookittyWoohoo! 10:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Monaco Grand Prix Drivers

OK, go ahead. Regards, Mxcatania (talk) 20:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DH, how do you do? I saw you added Carlo Felice Trossi as F1 driver, but I failed to see him racing in the Formula One World Championship (1950-onwards). You said that Trossi took part of non-Championship races, that is much true, but is there any standard in Wikipedia to say 'he is F1 driver, he is not'? If so, I think Carlo should not be included as F1 driver. Let me know your comments. Best regards, Mxcatania (talk) 20:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Massimo Natili and Patrick Nève

Hi there, I have added references for the two drivers / races that you mentioned. If there are any others that stick out to you as being unusual, please don't hesitate to ask :) I had two references for the Natili entry, both the Steve Small book and my John Thompson results book included Natili on the entry list as having practiced. The John Thompson book was co-authored by Duncan Rabagliati and Dr K Paul Sheldon, two guys who know absolutely everything there is to know about who took part in which race!! All the best, Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just cos

Belgium '55

Hi again, I have a reference for Schell, which I will add shortly. But I have no mention of Taruffi driving Ferrari #48, or being entered. It may well be true but I can't verify it! Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

André Testut

Hi DH, how are you? Maybe you can help me with this issue. As per WP article, André Testut is French driver from Lyon but both in 1958 Monaco Grand Prix and 1959 Monaco Grand Prix he was shown as Monegasque (look the flag). Where was André from? Regards, Mxcatania (talk) 23:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DH, you are great! I think FORIX.com is the most authorised source of information regarding F1 around the world, so I would agree with that site (the fact André Testut being French). I really appreciate your feedback! Best regards, Mxcatania (talk) 11:32, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: F1-column-heading-changing bot

Sorry, another issue has taken my attention, and I don't think I can get to this task. Since you are running AWB, and have thought through how to do the regexes, is there a reason you can't make the heading change yourself? Gimmetrow 06:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I've deleted it. Does the same apply to "| imagesize = " and the default size, as a matter of interest? Should this be changed or left as a variable parameter? Tyrenius (talk) 08:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've reduced protection to semi, and will leave you to do the clean up, in case I mess it up. It would be good if the blue appeared as default, unless specifically forced otherwise. Most people are not going to mess around with color - they just want the info up. Also a standard color is better for consistency across articles. How's about including it in the template, so it will appear, unless someone chooses otherwise? Tyrenius (talk) 09:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: F1 race report infoboxes

Yes, all this adding infoboxes will take a while to complete! I don't know how to add reference links yet, however. I am getting most of my information from the race pages here: [1].
Regards, Sam Emmett (talk) 19:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to driver race results

Hi DH. Sorry for not replying sooner, but I don't have regular access to Hotmail any more (I really ought to change my default email...). I'm not so sure about your proposal. I can see where you are coming from, but what you are talking about is removing information. If you draw all the different chassis into a single box, how can you tell which he used in any particular race? This comes down to a fundamental question of where we balance the need for space vs. detail. Pyrope 16:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

I would to say sorry for that. I will do my best in that matter.Robert Siow (talk) 14:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template Fix

Thank you very much! It's greatly appreciated. Benkenobi18 (talk) 06:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

late thanks!

Thank you so much for formatting the userboxes on my userpage. I just logged on for the first time in months, and BAM! it's stunning.

Thanks!

--Aeryka the Gnome (talk) 05:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Non-championship results

Hi! Thanks for your comments, I wasn't sure anyone had noticed what I was doing! I have managed so far to put together a fairly defined list from 1961 onwards. The list includes all F1 races which weren't part of a national series - so all the odd little mid-season South African races are omitted, the Rhodesian Grand Prix etc - because no European teams turned up to those. Same goes for the British F1 series in the late 70s. I have included the Australian and New Zealand Grands Prix though, even though they're fairly insignificant. The list is open to change though, for sure. The abbreviations I pretty much just knocked up as I went along - these are also very much open to suggestions for change etc. Cheers! Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

F1 assessment Bot request

Hi Guroadrunner. I saw your message on the bot request page. I think what you are wanting to do wouldn't be too hard to do using AWB. If you don't get a satisfactory response from the bot requests page by the weekend, I'll try to have a crack at it with AWB. (Have you used AWB? I love it. When I think about all those repetitive edits I made manually before I discovered AWB, it makes me want to cry...) Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 04:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DH, Thanks for the heads up! - I have never used AWB before, but I just downloaded it per your suggestion. I will have to figure out how to make it work this weekend because I'd really like to have all of the article assessed (pet project). Guroadrunner (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question about AWB

Hi DH,

I've been approved for AWB and I think I know how to get a list set up and use the find/replace set up to make edits, but how do I set it up to find things on an article page and make edits to the connected talk page?

I would like to seek all {{f1-bio-stub}} tags and edit the talk page to add {{WikiProject Formula One|class=stub}}.

Please let me know if you have time to help me - imagine working with a complete newbie regarding AWB. Guroadrunner (talk) 13:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Solitude Grands Prix

Thanks! As far as I'm aware, 'Solituderennen' was a kind of coverall term for races at the Solitudering. The term 'Grosser Preis der Solitude' was used occasionally, for both car races and bike races, but other races were called other things. The F1 races I've written articles about were all given the Grosser Preis title, but for the sake of consistency with other grands prix articles, I translated it to English. So which name you give to the category would, I guess, depend on whether or not you intend it to cover any racing held there, or just the grands prix (car and bike). Cheers! Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit conflict

Sorry - I assumed I had picked up all the same things at Renault R28 that you did. I was wrong. :( Good work! 4u1e (talk) 01:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

revert to "racing driver" it is, isn t it

just to confirm that I should revert the changes that I made to the disambig term back to "racing driver" regardless of which continent a racer has raced on, as by the sentiments of the majority of users in discussion at WP:MOTOR on this matter Mayumashu (talk) 02:08, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Standings After Each GP

Hi DH. Could you possibly comment on this discussion at WT:F1. I've brought it up, so that I can see if consensus has changed at all. I'm also getting into a revert war with several IP's, and I'm on the verge of violating 3RR. D.M.N. (talk) 17:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kubica

Oops! I got that wrong, didn't I? It wasn't intentional vandalism, I got mixed up with his qualifying position in Australia! :-/ Mjroots (talk) 08:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit summary was perfectly correct and fair, happy editing. Mjroots (talk) 08:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

F1 constructors

I just totted up the drivers listed on the relevant page of ChicaneF1.com. They have usually been pretty reliable in the past. Pyrope 14:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was wondering how to handle that myself. I reckon that, in accordance with the usual "common name" principle (and to save a little space!), we ought to use the abbreviation, with the full name in the smaller font. How does that sound? Pyrope 15:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think that is a can of worms that I would prefer stays shut. The number of pages that require updating after races is already long enough. I think listing them and then redirecting people's attention to that page if they require more information is enough for now. Pyrope 17:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, bit of a mess on this front as things stand. There didn't seem to be any fixed pattern to those done before I got involved. I personally favour total race entries, as this better represents those constructors that have a high percentage of privateer entrants. If you just show races entered then these will broadly correlate to years in the sport, so you are effectively duplicating information. What are your thoughts? Pyrope 14:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... but we aren't in the business of making things sound impressive. We're here to record fact. Ok, so McLaren won 15 out of 16 races, but they did have to use 32 entries to get there. My problem with using the number of races is that there have been wildly different levels of involvement in the past. Take the 1960 British Grand Prix for example: 13 Coopers, 4 Loti, 3 BRMs, 2 each from Aston and Ferrari, and one lone JBW. This wildly different level of involvement makes it seem odd to me that you should record all of these as equal; Cooper entered 1200% more cars than JBW! Had the single JBW won this would have been far more unlikely than one of the Coopers (as Black Jack's winning car actually was). Pyrope 15:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How about inserting the default colour in the template and then if someone want a different colour they can amend the inserted colour code? That seems to be a more straightforward approach. Ty 12:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed it at Template:Infobox Artist/doc. Ty 12:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although I'm pretty sure it was done in good faith, in my view this edit has changed the template for worse. On the 1995 Japanese Grand Prix article, the fastest lap runs onto a new line, and so does McLaren-Mercedes, although its the first one that makes the template look worse. Please note I am viewing this on 1280 x 800 monitor, so you may see it differently. D.M.N. (talk) 14:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance you could stretch the template out, so that it covers a little bit more of the page, then you'd be able to have more room for the middle column, and hopefully the lap number should get on the same line. Apart from that, you may want to bring it up at WT:F1 for suggestions (as it's with MS's name, it will affect all articles where he set the fastest lap in. D.M.N. (talk) 15:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.

(rv division into decades: not necessary)

Arguably, listing the former constructors and even the template itself is not necessary. Could we please try reinstating the previous version and see if and how many other folk don't find the decade information useful/intriguing? Sardanaphalus (talk) 13:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks. I'm hoping that even if other folk aren't keen on it, it'll be okay to keep, as the "Former" section is collapsed by default (i.e. the template isn't big until you show that part). Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]