Talk:Troy McClure

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Don't you think he has a striking resemblance as a drawing to Jimmy Carter?-Anonymous

To be added to the article: Who is this character based on? Most likely candidates: Rock Hudson and Tab Hunter. But it would bear further discussion. 209.149.235.254 19:38, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I had heard via a Simpsons writer that the late Robert Urich was a big inspiration for Troy.

Who voices Troy and Lionel now that Hartman has snuffed it? I can't find out. Did they write the characters out? --202.180.83.6 10:35, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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Had I bothered to read another paragraph I would've figured this out for myself. --202.180.83.6 10:37, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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Wolfcastle's films may be blockbusters, but they're unlikely to win Oscars -- Alanhwiki 02:24, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

He wasn't in "the world without zinc"

--Greasysteve13 11:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

More films

What about the films mentioned in the deleted scenes on the DVDs?

The Leakiest Boat on the Ganges

The Bombay Boys meet the Invisible Man

84.66.145.12 17:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Quotes

"Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such other nature films as 'Earwigs, Ew.' and 'Man Vs Nature... The Road To Victory'."
"Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such self help tapes as "Smoke yourself thin" and "Get some confidence, Stupid!"
"Hi, I'm Troy McClure, you may remember me from such medical films as 'Alice Doesn't Live Anymore' and 'Mommy, what's wrong with that man's face'"
"Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such educational films as "Two Minus Three Equals Negative Fun" and "Firecrackers: The Silent Killer"
PrometheusX303 03:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be funny (not usefull) to make a list (trivia) with the movies troy mentioned to be in. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.10.62.197 (talk) 02:50, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The Spanish version has the complete list of educational videos and quoted movies... I'd like them to be added in the english version... i can't bacause i don't have all the titles... --Gerard Armando (talk) 06:30, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Good for the Spanish version, but welcome to the English wiki and here we have policies against adding quotes sections. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 06:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Voice actor

I seem to remember that they during a commentary mentioned that one of the regular cast members did Troy's voice for minor parts when Phil wasn't available. I think it should be included, but I can't remember which commentary track it was. --Maitch 15:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

If you can find it, then it could be included, but not without a source. Gran² 15:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Of course, I just mentioned it here in case someone else could remember it. --Maitch 16:00, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

--Rmky87 18:44, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Gran² 18:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Tense problems in "Role in the Simpsons" section

Hello,

I've started editing this article, since it is really wordy and repetitive in places. I noticed that in second paragraph of Role in the Simpsons, the prose repeatedly shifts from past tense to present tense. I think we should stick with one tense (except when discussing things that are said to have happened before the start of the series). What should it be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awbizkomeydownstar (talk • contribs) 23:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the copy-edit, I requested one months ago but no one actually did anything. My prose skills are not that great, so your work would be greatly valued. As for the tense, I'm not sure bu I think it should be in the present. Seeing as this is fiction, these things never actually happened. WP:TENSE should provide a definite answer. Gran² 23:51, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I've been putting some more work into the article. I'd appreciate any feedback. Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 19:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Good job, it reads considerably better than it did before and is more organised. Gran² 19:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm a bit confused by this line: "Having McClure as the star of the episode pleased animator Mark Kirkland, as he found McClure's voice great to animate to, allowing him and other animators to "open him up visually as a character." What do you mean by "he found McClure's voice great to animate to"? Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 20:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

He loves Hartman's performance which means he enjoyed animating his scenes as his voice enabled him to direct and draw the character in a way which responds to Hartman's performance. At, least that's how I interperated it. Gran² 20:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. A couple of other questions:

1)Who described the fish fetish as "so perverted and strange, it was over the top"? Brooks, or one of the commentary participants?

2)The line about Hartman doing the McClure voice at NewsRadio is interesting, but doesn't have anything to do with the rest of that paragraph. What would be a better place to put it? Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

1) The actual quote was from Josh Weinstein and 2) Not sure, allow it's worth keeping, I don't think there is a best place for it. Gran² 21:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

It might work somewhere in the reception section. I'll see if I can move things around. Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 21:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

That whole reception section should be retooled, I think. I'll get working on it in a few hours. Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 21:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Something for you to ponder in the meantime: shouldn't we throw in an example of one of McClure's famous "introductions"? I like, "You might remember me from such self-help videos as 'Smoke Yourself Thin' and 'Get Confident, Stupid!'" Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 21:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I couldn't really find a place for the NewsRadio bit. What we need is a section on McClure's role in Phil Hartman's legacy. To make room for something like that, I decided to significantly trim the first paragraph of the reception section. Those quotes were just getting repetetive, anyway. Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 03:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Something I just remembered

Isn't there an early episode where McClure is played by someone else? It was a brief part, but his voice was notably different. It might be worth mentioning somewhere. Any help? Awbizkomeydownstar (talk) 04:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Too many WikiProjects

I have removed the comedy and television WikiProject banners; this is overcategorization. The animation banner could also be added to that list, but luckily it wasn't there. The Simpsons itself can have these banners placed on it, but not more specific articles like this one. That it is part of the Simpsons WikiProject entails that it is part of these broader projects, and like normal categories we should avoid overcategorization. If there were a Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional characters, then its banner could be placed here. Richard001 (talk) 01:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

For that matter, the Simpsons Project itself was undercategorized; I have added it to both the comedy and animation project categories. Richard001 (talk) 01:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hair color

Can we remove "hair color" from the infobox? People can just look at the picture. It's certainly not a defining characteristic. Zagalejo^^^ 01:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

This would apply to all such articles, assuming they are using hair colour in the infoboxes too. Richard001 (talk) 01:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we should remove it from every article, as it's a judgment call. We'd have to change Template:Simpsons character to do all that. I tried to change it myself, but realized I didn't know what I was doing. Zagalejo^^^ 01:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

It's certainly clear from all the pictures as far as I can see, so unless we want to keep it in case images are switched off or something, it should probably go. It seems too pedantic/fanboyish to me. Looks like it has already been brought up at Template talk:Simpsons character#Hair colour, and we all seem to agree. I'm useless with templates myself, but I have removed the field and reference to it in the documentation, so that seems to have done it. Richard001 (talk) 01:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, looks like that worked. Thanks. Zagalejo^^^ 02:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured article

A Simpsons character as a featured article? Who would of thought! Nice job. Pasta of Muppets (talk) 04:03, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

• It is great to see a Simpsons character featured, but it is a shame that there are so few references besides the "in universe" references. I doubt the article could pass FA with today's standards. JohnMGarrison (talk) 04:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Over half of the article is out-of-universe information -- unless you're labelling the DVD commentaries as "in-universe". Zagalejo^^^ 04:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Past or Present tense?

Although McClure no longer has a speaking role within the show he and Lionel Hutz (another one of Phil Hartman's Simpson's characters) still appear in the comic books and flashbacks and as background characters (with nonspeaking roles of course). Lionel Hutz's article is written in present tense and neither character has been officially "killed off" so I think we write the article in present tense. Just a suggestion ^_^ **I don't know for sure whether my argument applies to both characters, the Hutz article indicates both are still members of the show** 72.152.135.75 (talk) 04:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

y is this simpson character featured 2day

is this featured 2day? is it bc 2day is the day Phil(troy's voice) was murdered by his wife Brynn?
2day must be a hard day 4 his 2 kids. 70.108.128.109 (talk) 05:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)