User talk:Quercusrobur
Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need any questions answered about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Question: Are you Graham Burnet or do you have permission from this person to be placing their text under terms of the GNU FDL? Either way, copyright info must go in the edit summary of articels on not on the page itself. Cheers! --maveric149
Yup - vandals have tried many times to junk Wikipedia but there are about 200 of us and usually only one or two of them. We've won every battle so far. I happen to be one of the 40 or so administrators around here who watch for vandalism/copyright violations along with performing site maintenance. Please experiment away - but for pure experimentation it might be best to play around in wikipedia:sandbox. You can do pretty much anything in there without having to bother with editorial comments from other users (we all are pretty serious about creating a solid encyclopedia here). Power to the wiki!. --mav
- Cool trick: Type ~~~ or ~~~~ and hit save.
The text in Apple propagation has been edited and wikified so we should stick with that content. What do you think would be the best title for the article? "Propagating apples and other fruit trees" sounds like the name of a how-to and not an encyclopedia article (we also don't like plurals around here: see wikipedia:naming conventions). How about Fruit tree propagation? (you can answer here -- talk page back and forth isn't always the best). --mav
Fine by me Quercusrobur
PS Can I add graphics? (there are some diagrams that go with the original text- I've also got an article on fruit tree pruning which is very diagram heavy)
- Hi, Quercusrobur, welcome on board!
- Yes, you can add graphics too (seeWikipedia:Copyrights - Wiki rules apply to these too - and read also Wikipedia:Image use policy and related articles). You can use the link "Upload" (somewhere in the page, as before).
- BTW, thank you for your contributions :-) Gianfranco
Side note: Our copyright licence, the GNU FDL, only appies to text -- so since we are not for profit and are providing an educational use, you can pretty much upload images and use them in articles without fear of violating copyrights (see fair use guidelines). --mav
How are you making those box characters? Can you explain how to avoid making box characters? -phma
Okay, here's a row of box characters:
€?‚ƒ„…†‡^‰S‹Œ?Z??‘’“”•-—~™s›œ?z?
They're actually different characters, but they all look alike because they're invalid and the font substitutes its .notdef character for them. In my default font (Verdana) they look like big square boxes; in Lucida Console (what I use in the editbox) they look like wickets; in Century Gothic (my default Kmail font) they look like the upper right corner of a square; and in Clearlyu they're invisible (though other notdefs look like a tilted square with a question mark inside).
There is no way to type box characters, unless you edit your keyboard map. To get that row of boxes, I had to write a program to emit them. Since they can't be typed, how are you entering them? -phma
Check the history of fruit tree propagation. I'm using Konqueror. Let me see if this makes a .notdef in Clearlyu: — No it doesn't; it looks like a hyphen. Odd. -phma
I know you're new and all, but could you take some time to wikify your entries? --mav 14:56 Aug 31, 2002 (PDT)
- You are in luck! You don't need to know any HTML to wikify things around here -- just place brackets around things you think might be relevant article titles (per our wikipedia:naming conventions -- this does have to be done manually though). And no, you have not been wrist slapped -- I just see much potential in your contributions and want to get you up to speed as quickly as possible. Yours in the wiki! --mav 16:37 Aug 31, 2002 (PDT)
Re: Hendrix and Dylan--Dylan himself said once that he was confused about why Hendrix covered only "All Along the Watchtower," since so many of his songs seemed to be Hendrix's also (e.g. the sentiments are the same). I guess maybe that was before "the Hendrix vaults" got opened after the copyright situation was resolved, or ... I don't know. Too much drugs for Dylan or something? I'm not a fan of either, though they're both good musicians. --KQ 14:57 Aug 31, 2002 (PDT)
Hello, the text you've put up at Local Exchange Trading Systems is a direct paste of the first two paragraphs at http://pages.unisonfree.net/gburnett/page2.html . Unless you have the author's permission to release that text under the GNU FDL, putting the text in constitutes a copyright violation. Do you have the author's permission? --KQ 22:46 Aug 31, 2002 (PDT)
Where are you getting these articles? The presence of box characters indicates that you are pasting material from Microsoft Word files. -phma
hi phma The article which had the boxes (I still can't see them) was pasted from an html document that I did indeed create using MS Word... Maybe it's a formating thing or something? quercus robur
Look at the html file with a hex editor and look for any character in the range 80-9f. Also save it as plain text and look for those characters. Those are the boxes. They are control characters (see http://www.unicode.org/charts/ Latin-1 supplement for their names), so they should and do show up as notdefs when one attempts to display them; but Microsoft, ignoring standards as usual, assigned printing characters to them and caused problems for everyone else who tries to read their files.
For the correct html names of these characters, look at http://www.idocs.com/. They display as question marks in Konqueror when it's set to auto, but at least they are standard. In UTF-8, Konqueror shows things like ε correctly. -phma
Hi phma
I'm afraid you've lost me... I'm afraid I'm not that tech literate- finding out alot of stuff on here by trial & error & experimentation, I just thought it would be a nice idea to share some of my essays on horticulture & stuff but don't know much about formating, hex editors & stuff... But I'll try to paste info from the original docs rather than my web-pages in future which will hopefully minimise the sort of problem you describe??
Cheers quercus robur
- In my experience, the simplest way to avoid that problem is to open the document in the program you originally wrote it in and choose "save as" and then "text." MS Word and other programs will typically give a warning because you will lose formatting (italics, bold, etc.) but that's what you want--it also converts nonstandarad characters to the simplest equivalent. (that is , " becomes simply " and so forth.) Cheers, --KQ
Hello, I'm glad you wrote the material. BTW, if you put comments & questions on my talk page rather than my user page, I'll notice it sooner. (Lee's software puts an asterisk by "talk" at the top right of the screen when you have a new comment). Thanks, --KQ
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Would you be ever so kind to "review" pedology ? thanks