Talk:Die Another Day
I am surprised the "capitalist" film was even shown in North Korea. -fonzy
It was banned in North Korea. There was a big fuss in the news over it. --Madchester 02:14, 2005 Mar 6 (UTC)
Very few non-North Korean films are ever shown in North Korea, and so "banned" perhaps isn't quite the right word. It's not clear the film was ever seen by any North Korean officials before they condemned it. Then again, Kim Jong Il has a large personal library, so it's possible he's seen it... --ProhibitOnions 23:31, 2005 May 23 (UTC)
Who said Branson was the inspiration for Graves? Seems a bit unlikely... Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 13:55, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- it was Rupert Murdoch, obviously Morwen 13:57, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
- Nah, Rupert Murdoch was the inspiration for Jonathon Pryce's character in Tomorrow Never Dies, surely? Or maybe they did him twice... he's such a baddie ... :) Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 14:03, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Yeah, Pete has it right, Murdoch was inspiration for Elliot Carver in TND - media mogul, worldwide satellite and newspaper interests. There are no parallels between Murdoch and the Graves character. First I've heard about Branson, though there are parallels for that, daredevil and philanthropist are definitely two qualities you could associate with both. Mark 23:19, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
There was a guy with a lot of diamonds in his face. How did that come about ?
- He was the guy at the start who took Bond's picture and discovered his true identity. Then when he's about to be executed Bond detonates the briefcase that's filled with diomands which bury themselves in Zao's face. Mark 23:19, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The IMDb has a great list of the various on-screen references to past Bond films and books seen in this movie. I think something similar should be posted here, but one would have to be careful not to plagerize the IMDb list. 23skidoo 19:06, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
About the reaction section... the info is wrong, considering that Judi Dench has played M since winning her Oscar in 1999. --Madchester 02:14, 2005 Mar 6 (UTC)
- Good catch. I think I wrote that initially and I was thinking of "guest stars" as it were, not regulars. I modified the section to note Dench winning the Oscar, however after she became a Bond regular. 23skidoo 04:02, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
James Bond ... a code name?
I removed the following trivia item ...
- "At one point, it was rumored that the movie would reveal that, in reality, the character of James Bond was actually a moniker used by many MI6 agents in the past, thus allowing for cameos by each of the series' Bond actors as James, in one alleged pivotal scene, reflects back on the lives of the 007 agents that preceeded him. It is unknown if this was indeed a possibility early in the movie's inception or, if so, why it was dropped."
...on the basis that no source was provided. This sounds pretty far-fetched and I can't imagine the holders of the Bond franchise actually authorizing such a "jump the shark" moment. If someone can provide a source for this rumor, by all means put it back (with source cited, of course). 23skidoo 13:55, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The anomymous user has tried to add this item again, but still failed to provide attribution, so have reverted again. 23skidoo 14:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- First I've heard of it. :/ K1Bond007 16:59, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
- In my experience anon users don't seem to check edit histories or discussion pages, so to avoid a possible revert issue on this, I added an embedded editorial note that hopefully the person will see before adding this trivia item again. 23skidoo 17:47, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The James Bond codename used by various 007's is actually a theory that has been around for a while amongst certain Bond enthusiasts. Although i agree with 23skidoo in that this has never been officially endorsed by the James Bond franchise and I think it is unlikely it ever will be. If the rumour was true, then they really were scraping the barrel for ideas on this one.
- In my experience anon users don't seem to check edit histories or discussion pages, so to avoid a possible revert issue on this, I added an embedded editorial note that hopefully the person will see before adding this trivia item again. 23skidoo 17:47, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
your theory is wrong remember Bond(George Lazenby) was married to Terresa and she was killed Bond(Roger Moore) Visits Terresa's grave in For your Eyes Only Bond(Dalton) visits Felix's house when Felix had just gotten married Felix says:"he was married once but that was a long time ago" Dudtz 8/25/05 4:27 PM EST
- Yeah, the marriage thread (one of the few points of actual continuity in the series) pretty much renders the theory moot. Similarly, the fact that Q treats Connery's Bond the same way he treats Brosnan's Bond suggests that, in theory, it's the same man throughout (though of course there has to be some suspension of disbelief here since Brosnan is clearly too young to have tangled with Dr. No more than 40 years ago; presumably in Brosnan's universe the encounter happened sometime in the 1980s). 23skidoo 02:25, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
September 11
Was the fact to put Bond in jail for fourteen months in North Korea an attempt by the screenwriters to justify his inability (of Bond) to prevent September 11 ? Or am I going too far ?194.183.196.141 5 July 2005 10:52 (UTC)
- Going to far. It was just so they could do something they'd never really done before. Similar to in The World Is Not Enough when Bond got hurt, which rarely ever happens in the films. K1Bond007 July 5, 2005 18:45 (UTC)
- I agree that I don't think it was done as a means to an end, although M does make a fairly explicit reference to Bond having missed 9/11 so while it may not have been the filmaker's intended message, it did serve to dodge a little landmine in terms of "is Bond still relevant after 9/11". 23skidoo 8 July 2005 21:33 (UTC)
Bond film references
One thing this article lacks is a detailed listing of all the various references to Bond novels and films. Not counting unintentional rehashes of past themes (of which DAD has a few), there are enough intentional nods to past Bonds that I think it deserves its own section. 23skidoo 16:07, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
- Minus the list of gadgets etc that show up from previous films and I agree with you. K1Bond007 17:07, August 29, 2005 (UTC)