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Discussion of "Wiki engines using MySQL"

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An odd subset of the (arguably too inclusive) list at Wiki software; not really encyclopedic and of little value. Orphaned apart from a whole load of redirects, PhpWiki (which is a sub-stub anyway) and MySQL (as a "see also"). - IMSoP 16:51, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)


  • Merge into Wiki software.--PlasmaDragon 17:35, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I should have mentioned: I've merged all the non-duplicated info into Wiki software, but I see no reason to bother making this a redirect. - IMSoP 20:02, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Concur with Plasmadragon. --Improv 18:24, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • I think this is a useful split. Keep and remove from Wiki software, keeping only a link to this subpage. anthony (see warning) 16:16, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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Validity of this page

OK, so clearly I didn't garner consensus that this page should be deleted outright, so let's discuss some more. As mentioned, I personally think the list of Wiki engines we have at the moment is excessive: remember, Wikipedia is not a web directory. Given that there are more complete lists elsewhere, I'm arguing for a severe pruning of the list: see Talk:Wiki software#Huge list of engines considered harmful.

But even orthogonal to that, I think that having ones that use MySQL as a subset is a bit arbitrary: there are many dimensions on which the different engines differ, the most obvious being what language they are written in (although even that is more convenient for list-maintainers than those looking for an engine). The fact that a piece of software uses MySQL rather than, say, PostgreSQL is just a design decision; that it uses a database rather than a set of individual files could be seen as a feature, but is hardly the single most important one. If we really wanted to have lots of categorised lists of wiki engines, we could have a List of wiki software by data storage type or somesuch (one big file vs file-per-page vs MySQL vs PostgreSQL etc). Personally, I think maintaining such a page would be a waste of time, since Wiki:WikiChoicetree already attempts this, and can just be referenced as being the canonical place to find such information. - IMSoP 16:05, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I agree that this page alone seems inappropriate. However, the page you mention is not really interesting. It contains a link to another page with a table on TaviWiki, but that one isn't much better. I think there's a need for a quality Wiki choosing resource.--Chealer 06:01, 2004 Nov 17 (UTC)

Article moved

I've moved "Wiki engines using MySQL" to "List of wiki software" as we should not classify Wiki software according to DBMS. Minghong 10:48, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Removal of external links on entries that do have an existing wikipedia article

For those who didn't notice, I would like to kindly point out that minghong in his edit on 10:15, 2005 May 8, with an edit summary reading Keep the lists sorted in the same edit action also removed all external links on all entries where a wikipedia article exists on this lists.

What do you all think about that removal of said external links? -- Adrian Buehlmann 18:22, 2005 May 9 (UTC)

Removal of external links on entries that do have an existing wikipedia article

For those who didn't notice, I would like to kindly point out that minghong in his edit on 10:15, 2005 May 8, with an edit summary reading Keep the lists sorted in the same edit action also removed all external links on all entries where a wikipedia article exists on this lists.

What do you all think about that removal of said external links? -- Adrian Buehlmann 21:26, 2005 May 9 (UTC)