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It's not clear to me what "tabor" is. Is it a technical term known to most military historians? Or could it possibly be a word needing an English translation here?

IMHO, it needs to be translated JHK


In my (rather old) polish dictionary it means something like 'Rolling stock' or 'train'. This doesn't make sense in all cases used in the article though.


Tabor is

a) mountain and city in Czech, important for hussite wars

b) some biblical mountain

c) military term, referring to wagons connected by chains. Formation of wagons could fight and moving (something like first panzer formations) or could be fortified and became wagenburg, fortified camp, entranched camp.

d) tabor is also army service column.


Tabor was very typical for Old-Polish army, it developed first however in Czech, it was then enhanced (and adapted back to Poland) by Cossacks. Other nations may also use tabors.


I don't know which word use, since i am not sure if wagenburg, or descriptive "wagons connected by chains" will be ok to use here. I decided that i will use word tabor and i will later exaplin it's meaning in separate entry, however i guess native english speakers should know better what word would fit here szopen

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szopen I am guessing you are talking about the "War of the cities" the Preussische Bund Hansa cities versus the Teutonic Knights ?

When you write in Polish Swiecin are you referring to Schwetz at the Vistula River ?

H. Jonat

This could be Battle of Schwetz, but battle of Swiecin definetely was during war between Poland and Teuton Order. Again, Prussian confederacy was _not_ only of cities, although cities, especially three of them, played big part in them. Peace which ended war was between Teutons and Poland, not between Teutons and Prussian confederacy.
I will add Schwetz as a German name, and i will add also redirect. szopen

To szopen

By the dates and places it sounds like that is the battle. It is called the Thirteen-Year-War.

H. Jonat