Talk:Human rights in Canada
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Having the vast majority of a page nominally about human rights in Canada devoted to a single incident is inappropriate, see WP:COAT. An article about human rights in any country should provide a balanced view of the subject, rather than focusing on a single topic. Having an article about the High Arctic relocation is fine, but not under such an all-encompassing title. Hqb (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- The article just needs to be expanded to include other significant content as well. The only reason it's only about one incident at this point is that it's only existed for a couple of days and nobody's added other incidents to it yet. It's not that WP:COAT doesn't apply; the article just doesn't really need to have both the {{coatrack}} and {{expand}} templates on it at the same time. Bearcat (talk) 17:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- More like a couple of hours, not days, since I created it! Thanks for the interest (HQB) and support (Bearcat). I am fascinated by the story of the Human flagpoles (which I also just created) and thought it was strange Canada didn't have an article on human rights. Where should I ask for other editors to pile in on this? BrainyBabe (talk) 17:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've already raised it over at WP:CWNB as an article that could use some attention and expansion. Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- And also -- I had not heard of {{coatrack}} before, and am glad to have had it drawn to my attention. I don't think its addition here is fair (although I realise it is not appropriate for me to remove it), because the content of the article is not off topic -- it just deals with, admittedly, a very limited part of the topic (and deals quite well, if I say so myself, with refs etc.). I heartily agree with the {{expand}}, and hope others do. BrainyBabe (talk) 17:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think that right now, the article is simply too lopsided. It gives the impression that the main thing to note about human rights in Canada is that indigenous people are treated poorly, and that the most notable instance of such abuse is an incident more than 50 years ago. The opening sentence could definitely be more balanced; after all, compared to many other countries, Canada has a pretty good record – if that one episode was indeed "one of the worst human rights abuses" in its history. A single sentence or two about the forced relocations, with a wikilink to the relevant article, should be more than sufficient. Currently, almost the entire text is duplicated in both articles. Hqb (talk) 17:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I've tried to trim the article to keep it within WP:NPOV. Please feel free to edit further; in particular, the Human Flagpole summary could perhaps be a little longer, without overwhelming the article. Hqb (talk) 18:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Looks fine now! Hqb (talk) 18:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've added not only other indigenous examples, but internships of "enemy aliens" as well. I'll leave it to others to expand. BrainyBabe (talk) 06:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I've tried to trim the article to keep it within WP:NPOV. Please feel free to edit further; in particular, the Human Flagpole summary could perhaps be a little longer, without overwhelming the article. Hqb (talk) 18:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think that right now, the article is simply too lopsided. It gives the impression that the main thing to note about human rights in Canada is that indigenous people are treated poorly, and that the most notable instance of such abuse is an incident more than 50 years ago. The opening sentence could definitely be more balanced; after all, compared to many other countries, Canada has a pretty good record – if that one episode was indeed "one of the worst human rights abuses" in its history. A single sentence or two about the forced relocations, with a wikilink to the relevant article, should be more than sufficient. Currently, almost the entire text is duplicated in both articles. Hqb (talk) 17:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- More like a couple of hours, not days, since I created it! Thanks for the interest (HQB) and support (Bearcat). I am fascinated by the story of the Human flagpoles (which I also just created) and thought it was strange Canada didn't have an article on human rights. Where should I ask for other editors to pile in on this? BrainyBabe (talk) 17:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)