Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tierazon

Tierazon

Non-notable software. Minor lulz for the article creator adding a "this article may not meet the general notability guideline" tag. Ironholds (talk) 05:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC) Ironholds (talk) 05:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This article has been suggested for deletion due to being about "non-notable software". Currently, there are articles about Sterling, Fractint, Apophysis and Fractint. According to the most authoritative fractal census I have seen, Tierazon is the 4th most popular fractal generating program, more popular than Apophysis and Sterling. Please see: http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/Tried-Use_Counts.html. I suggest that this be put to consensus - let those wikipedians who are knowledgeable about fractals decide on this matter. I have made about 14,000 fractals and used about 20 different fractal generators and Tierazon is, in my humble opinion, the best of these. Soler97 (talk) 05:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Soler97, please indicate at the beginning of your comment, in bold, whether you want the article to be kept, deleted, or is it a comment? And are you spamming? Looks to me that you are, because I saw your talk page, you've got no user page, and you've created this article. - ÆÅM «(fætsøn!) 06:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why you say that I am spamming. What difference would it make whether I have a user page or not? Soler97 (talk) 08:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please assume good faith; a registered user is free to create an article regardless of whether they have a userpage. :) Somno (talk) 06:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; I can't find any coverage in reliable sources that shows this software meets notability criteria. Might be great software, but that doesn't mean it's automatically notable. Somno (talk) 06:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - ad-like and written like it's a substitute for the product's original documentation. Only links are to the maker's page and the installation instructions (they have no info about the actual product) - ÆÅM «(fætsøn!) 06:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please explain what you mean by "they have no info about the actual product". Soler97 (talk) 08:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete According to Wikipedia:Notability (software): Software is notable if it has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the software's author(s). The article does not establish notability according to that guideline, nor does it fit the exceptions outlined on that page. Of course, if those sources exist and are added before this discussion ends, I can't see why this article couldn't be kept.TheRingess (talk) 07:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I found a reference to Tierazon in a German book called "Leben und Tod durch Zufall und Seele" By Steffen Grimm viz "82 Solche Bilder mit 16 Millionen Farben lassen sich zB mit dem Computerprogramm Tierazon erstellen. Das Programm ist im Internet verfügbar. " I think it is referring to images made by Tierazon.

I also found this: http://math.unipa.it/~grim/cieaem/cieaem57_codetta.pdf

Soler97 (talk) 08:36, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nom: If you want knowledgeable people to take a look this needs to be put to some mathematicians. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. —Mgm|^(talk) 12:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I can find no clear evidence of notability (e.g. Google Scholar, Google News all dates, Google Books). I don't think one footnote in a book in German and one mention in a table in a conference paper is enough. By contrast Apophysis seems to have generated at least a bit more scholarly interest (Google Scholar "Apophysis fractal"; some hits are not about the software but several clearly are). (Sterling is too common a word / name for Google to be of much use). All these can be mentioned at Fractal generating software though, which could usefully be expanded to compare and contrast them, perhaps in a table, and could include one external link per program. Qwfp (talk) 17:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note. Tierazon was equal 5th among the programs used in the last FAME fractal competition, which had 700 entries: http://www.wack.ch/fame/afc3/kodgal.html Soler97 (talk) 23:05, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Please read Wikipedia:Notability (software)TheRingess (talk) 23:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep

If I were looking for a software program to generate Fractals then I would definitely consider Tierazon. So I believe that the information about this program is important, relevant and should be kept. If this article was to be deleted then most other software referenced under 'Fractal generating software' should also be deleted. Tierazon is used extensibly by a Soler (Tad Boniecki) who is prolific fractal creator: [1]