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Cup Final

Is a whole section dedicated to the AC Milan/Liverpool Champions League Final really necessary, considering it is only one of five European Cup finals Liverpool have won in the past?

Well perhaps it could be added to a new page, the 2005 Champions League Final? Obviously, as wikipedia did not exist during any of the previous wins, this one is going to be written about more. -sars 19:08, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
I was thinking about moving the section to a new page entirely along with further details regarding 'Pool's other European Cup wins. This article is already too long by Wikipedia standards anyway.
- Have gone and made a new article like I said but it needs serious help with the details of the other European Cup wins. I didn't get to experience them firsthand so my lack of knowledge regarding the finals prior to 1985 is somewhat deplorable. :P - shikinluv

I've removed the link to pinkfootball.com in the unofficial links. It's not a respected resource for Liverpool news; it's certainly not up to the standards of any of the other links in the section, just a rehashing of news, and not as up to date as any of the others. Given that the edit was made by someone who's only made edits to link to pinkfootball.com on other teams, I presume that it's someone link building for their site, rather than benefiting Wikipedia. - KeithD 18:50, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I've been contacted by the person who added the pinkfootball.com links, who's assured me that they weren't doing so on behalf of the company. I still don't think that the link is up to the standard of the other unofficial sites linked in the article, but of course if anyone feels differently they can re-add it. KeithD 15:24, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Inaccuracies in Joe Fagan/Kenny Dalglish Eras

Just noticed a few inaccuracies in the text but didn't want to change them as i'm new to all of this:

  • Alan Hansen wasn't made captain until Kenny Dalglish took charge. Graeme Souness was captain for 1983/84, and i'm pretty sure Phil Neal was captain the following season
  • The text implies Ray Houghton was at the club in the 1985/86 season. He didn't join the club until 1987
  • John Barnes and John Aldridge are mentioned as replacing Ian Rush, but what about including Peter Beardsley? David f1976 01:14, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Souness\Houllier Era Inaccuracies

I have noticed under the Graeme Souness years it is mentioned that he was sacked. He in fact resigned. To this day Liverpool FC have not sacked a manager.JamieStapleton 13:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I have edited references to both Souness and Houllier being 'sacked'. Souness resigned and Houllier and Liverpool parted by mutual consent. JamieStapleton 14:30, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


Stars

Do we really think Harry Kewell can be regarded as a star? He's limped off in two of our important matches, and been out for injury for most games. He was only a really notable player at the start of his debut season. - sars 15:23, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

I would rate others above him. Most Liverpool fans, including myself, have found him a disappointment more than a star. Soul Embrace 15:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

True he has been disappointing, and I would rate others above him too. but if we have Nick Barmby we must keep Kewell (also Jason McAteer? - sure he was a fixture in the team but I'm not sure many would call him a star). In fact I could argue that we should get rid of Barmby and keep Kewell - he was (at the least) a star when he signed for us - like Anelka - who only scored 4 goals in 20 for us if I remember right. I say we just leave him there. Friedel is there but did nothing for us. From the make up of the list, it seems to me that if they were a star, regardless of how they played for us, they should be there. Cursive 16:35, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

That seems a fair compromise. I agree. Soul Embrace 18:55, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Do we really need this in the article? It doesn't seem to fit (it really looks out of place) and is pretty poor quality too. Whoever added it didn't even give it a caption, I don't think it fits, but will defer to consensus. Cursive 23:23, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree with you that it looks out of place where it currently is, is poor quality, and has no caption, however I'd say that a place for a better quality version could probably be found in the article. I'm not sure where though.
Was it just the club logo in the 1970s only, or was it the logo before then? KeithD (talk) 08:49, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
I have done some research on this and, from what I have found, the 'old' logo appears to have been in existence long before the 70's. There is a disappointing lack of clear pictures anywhere and I haven't found anything clearer. I have put out a couple of feelers and will post back here when I hear something. (Picked up some images of some classic programmes but I don't think they are free of copyright - fascinating stuff!) Soul Embrace 18:24, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it was the club logo in the 70s. This is more the standard logo beloved of all fans of the era http://www.liverweb.org.uk/stdbadg.jpg
My research drew a blank on any dates or images. Is the image posted above copyright free? Soul Embrace 18:23, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
All club images prior to the current badge are copyright free

Early history

I added a whole section on the club's history from 1892-1950 yesterday, it took me 4 hours to write and it has been removed today. I am not impressed.

I also amended the club's record defeat. Official sources always quote the 9-1 defeat at Birmingham City in Division 2 on 11th December 1954. Also deleted. Can anybody explain? (Unsigned comment by User:212.32.106.70)

Your excellent contribution to the article hasn't been deleted. It's still there. Perhaps your browser has cached the old page and you're not seeing the most recent version? KeithD (talk) 09:23, 15 September 2005 (UTC)


Whoops! You are right - exits red-faced.

Suitably encouraged I will continue from 1950-59. Cheers. BTW how does one create a user name? (Unsigned comment by User:212.32.106.70)

I've answered on your talk page, along with the traditional welcome message. In short though, the register link should be visible in the top right corner of every page here. KeithD (talk) 12:09, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism

I changed the phrase 'fluked the European Cup 5 times' to 'won the European Cup 5 times.'