User talk:Nico~enwiki
Earlier discussion: archive1 (October, 2003 - January, 2004)
Nico, what was wrong with my version of the Gdansk intro? The "formerly Danzig" clearly isn't going to stand... john 03:22, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hey Nico, I agree that it's useless to reason with User:Gdansk or whoever that is. I am currently going to stick with the formulation I've been using, as some form of it seems to have been acceptable to most everyone, and it is, so far as I am aware, completely accurate. It indicates that the city normally used to be called Danzig without denying that it might also at that time have been called Gdansk, which I think the Polish users object to. Let's not worry about this until User:Gdansk loses interest, at any rate. john 04:51, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Czaja This is correct, that he was born in Teschen, but in this historic moment 1939 it is very confusing, because it suggests Austrian anschluss. In addition, I am not sure if he still lived in Polski Cieszyn or maybe he moved somewhere else in Silesian Voivodship. He seems to me more adhere to Silesia then to particular part, like Austrian Silesia. Better state simply, that all parts of Silesia were annexed by Germany at this moment, as simple as it is possible for avarage reader. Cautious 13:20, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Nico, I've protected Pila now. Can you please stop and converse with the person you are reverting? Follow Wikipedia:Conflict resolution. If you feel it's broken down, request comments, request mediation, do what you have to do. Just please stop the revert wars. I know, it takes two sides. I'm asking you not to be one of those sides right now. Let's settle things. Thanks, Nico. Jwrosenzweig 20:57, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Image centring
Hi Nico! Thanks for your response to my re-centring of the picture caption on Mozart. I have to accept what you say about IE5 making a mess of the picture positioning but I'm still puzzled (I have IE6). I've just done a count of how many pictures I have put on WP since I began in January 2003 and it's 800 (800 thumbnails and 800 larger versions).
Every single caption is centred so why has no-one told me about this problem before! Any theories? Best Wishes,
Adrian Pingstone 17:54, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
invitation
Please see Talk:American twenty dollar bill. You get this invitation because your name appears in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (US vs American). Feel free to ignore if you are disinterested. - Optim 05:16, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi Rick (or John)! Why do you have to claim Polish like Copernicus were Germans? Aren't there any famous German people you could edit? Copernicus didn't even speak German. Mestwin 02:40, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Copernicus did speak German, BTW :)
Adolf Hitler claimed Copernicus for the German nation I have a collection of stamps by Adolf Hitler, issued in 1940, claiming the Copernicus was a German astronomer. I just thought they may be of interest for you.
Hi Nico - thank you for your kind words. I guess i am wikipediholic and couldn't stand more than a month away from wikipedia Szopen
Would You call planned mass extermination of Jews during WW II - Germanization?
And then, there are many Jewish holocaust deniers. World is a twisted place.
Space Cadet 15:36, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- The comparison is ridiculous. And you know it. Nico 15:41, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Can't say that I do. It's actually a very good analogy, despite huge differences in the historical era. But like I said, there will always be people who deny the most obvious.
Changing the subject: since you are the omly one questioning genocide/extermination, how about coming up with some sources for "Germanization". Not from some XIX century (or XIV century, for that matter)historian and not from some Landsmannschaft site, though, please!
Truly,
Cadet
And what's wrong with XIX century historians? Nico 16:03, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The same as with XIX century physicists, chemists, linguists, archeologists etc. Newtonian mechanics, although taught to this day in high schools, cannot explain high speed phenomena, spacetime curvature or twin paradox. Phlogiston theory although charming, loses to the oxidation as explanation of combustion. Vis Vitalis theory stating that no organic compound can be synthesised from non-organic matter outside of living organisms is a joke since the synthesis of uric acid. And so on and so forth. Science constantly moves forward, verifies and rewrites itself. While the Pythagorean theorem survived millenia, other "canons of knowledge" cannot survive half a decade. The number of resources available to scientists increased unimaginably since XIX century. Also science became more independent from the political indoctrination. The so called "scientific method" crystallized into a very well defined process.
Do you consider yourself an educated, well read person (as I always considered you to be)? Because if don't, then what are you doing at an encyclopedia? Making waves? Excercising shock value?
But at least I'm happy you don't question my request not to use Landsmannschaft sites. Theoretically, you could've asked what's wrong with them, too. After all, you made reference to them several times in various articles.
Hopefully, I was able to clarify some issues troubling you. Count on that always!
Sincerely,
Space Cadet
As you may have noticed, I have nothing against the Landmannschaften. But I don't think they in this particular case are more relevant as historical sources than, say, CDU, SPD, Labour or any political party or organisation.
And I still think genocide and extermination are not the right words when dealing with the issues of the Teutonic Knights and the Baltic Prussians or similar cases in history. Nico 19:17, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
And that's your opinion, which I respect. Whether it belongs in an encyclopedia, is a different issue however.
Space
I can find no evidence that what you say is true. And aren't you the person who was claiming only the other day that East Germany should be about the lands currently described at Eastern Germany? Morwen 18:18, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)
Do you think you ought to write to dw-world.de to tell them they've made a terrible mistake here? [1]. They seem to be using 'Eastern Germany' to mean the six states, not areas annexed by Poland etc! Morwen 18:25, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)
Argh, I found another one. This time the german tourism board have got it wrong. They think that Berlin is in Eastern Germany, when you say it is in Middle Germany. Here is the link - [2].
And the British Council in germany have got it wrong too - see [3]. They say Eastern Germany is Berlin, Brandenberg and Mecklenberg-Vorpommern! In fact, I can't find anyone who has got it right! Morwen 18:28, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)
But you must agree the _primary_ use of the term 'Eastern Germany' in English refers to a region entirely confined within the borders of the Federal Republic, whatever its exact boundaries may be. Certainly we should mention the historical usage of the term, but we shouldn't try and present that as the primary usage of the term. I will rewrite the introduction a bit to match what I found. Morwen 18:33, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)
Hi, Nico, Please don't get carried away with reverts on the East Germany article. It is enough to occassionally return to the article and edit it to your satisfaction, but please don't engage in revert wars. Fred Bauder 15:04, Mar 6, 2004 (UTC)
Neumark is only part of East Brandenburg. Cautious 23:31, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)