Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rich Girl

Delete: Without unnecessarily dismissing the positive points of including pop-songs, may I draw your attention to the initial question of longevity for this article, as per the wiki guidelines for inclusion? Do you honestly believe that in the year 2105 that a Wikipaedia user is going to type in the words “rich girl” expecting to find this ephemeral, predominantly MTV-specific pop song?

Has it made such an impact on the collective imagination e.g. “Happy Birthday”, “New York, New York”, that our grandchildren’s grandchildren will be singing it?

Due to the very nature of mass marketing, articles about commercial pop songs are very easy to verify. Does this by itself validate their inclusion in this project?

This sort of grass roots advertising is often effectively undetectable, what with zombie e-teamers running all over the web. We really should be on the look out for it beofre the project becomes a giant press release. --HasBeen 11:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The points the nominator bring up are not listed under the policy WP:DP. However, this article badly needs cleaning up. It makes many assertions that are not verifiable (WP:V). It does not cite its sources (WP:CITE). Some problematic passages are:

The song has caused a highly split reaction among listeners, as although it is very popular, it is either hugely loved or hugely disliked.

Not only is this sentence awkward and needs a copy edit, it is not backed up by any references. If there was such a strong split in public opinion about this song, it should be verifiable in a reputable published source. I would expect more than just a link to an MTV News article on the web.

Following the failure of her previous single, "What You Waiting For?", critics had dismissed Stefani's album as a failed solo vanity project...

What critics say this? The article doesn't say. Again, this should be verifiable by a reputable music industry published source.

The editors of this article want to push for it to be a WP:FA. It has a long way to go before it gets there. However, for the time being, the song is notable and should be kept. It is notable, was popular in its time, and is an interpretation of another culturally relevant song. Who are we to say what will be researched in 100 years time? Rock 'n' Roll of the 1950s was once dismissed as disposable. Now there are college courses on the subject. --malber 13:15, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]