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Welcome, Renata! All those look like quite fascinating subjects! Drop a line at Wikipedia:Village pump if you have questions...

Hi, Renata -- Glad to help! You can get rid of pages that you start by mistake by turning one page into a redirect to another page. For instance, because singular names are preferred for articles, oats has actually been redirected to oat. This is done by replacing the contents with this line:

#REDIRECT [[oat]]

I hope that shows up correctly - just go to the "Editing help" page and search for "redirect".


About conservation/protection "portal" page

Thanks for the note. It's the sort of idea which (a) I think is good and (b) will make me wake up screaming in the night because of its complexity! I don't think I know enough about this field to really offer to help but I would love to see where you go with it. The only reason I initially got into the NT bit was because I wanted to start a wiki on Dunstanburgh and it just sort of grew!!! :) Please feel free to go back to your listing idea on the NT page, I promise I won't trash it again, and we can see where it leads. Nevilley

Seen on User talk:Nevilley:

(Renata writes:) Eventually I'm hoping to come up with an idea for a kind of portal where every kind of conservation agency or charity can be listed, whether nature cons. or buildings or whatever, also the welter of designations (ESA, SSSI, AONB etc.). I've made a bit of a start, but it's just the tip of the iceberg.....*shudder*

Terrifying, but it's an excellent plan! I look forward to it. I have here a booklet on Spurn Point which I keep meaning to use to write an article. I'll keep an eye out & help out with what I can. -- Tarquin 22:21 Oct 6, 2002 (UTC)

Oh and another thing ... how do you fancy trying to explain the difference between, say, the National Trust and English Heritage? I started up pages about both (again, because of Dunstanburgh) but it's horribly complicated - all the quangoes and council for this and that, what has governmental authority and what doesn't,which org's members can vote on policy - what a minefield! Rather you than me!!! :) Nevilley

Renata, on this page and on User talk:Nevilley you?re writing about the conservation pages. Some time ago I have proposed a WikiProject Protected Areas. So far, there hasn?t been anyone else interested in it. I realize it?s not exactly the same thing you want to do, but you might have a look at it. I?ve started with the Protected areas of Australia and I think I?ll have enough work with that for the foreseeable future. But eventually we could cooperate by linking articles or exchanging information. You don?t have to answer immediately because it?s already 1am here (Belgium), so I?ll have to catch some sleep :-) Guy 22:58 Oct 6, 2002 (UTC)

Hi Renata! The Protected area page is indeed a good beginning. There will be lots more to write, as you indicate. I included the definition of a Protected Area given by the IUCN (see [[1]]. However, I'm not sure if this is the *only* existing definition.
I've also looked at Protected areas of the European Union and Protected areas of the United Kingdom. It seems that your approach is by protected area type, while mine is by country. They both probably have their pros and cons, and neither will be perfect for every country or PA type. I started with Australia because it's a country I know reasonably well (from a traveller's viewpoint). I really don't know if the approach I'm taking there will also work with other countries. Maybe we can find some common ground? Any ideas/suggestions?
BTW, if you don't like this particular discussion on your user page feel free to move it to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Protected Areas, where it probably belongs. Guy 13:03 Oct 7, 2002 (UTC)

Hello Guy,

it's probably not worth moving it even. Very soon, the page irself will exist, and then we can use that talk page.

The Protected Areas of the United Kingdom is just a stub which will have a link list at the bottom to help people with the many confusing designations. I am planning to list the main protected areas in the UK at the top, or in any case in the style you did the Aussie ones. User:Renata

Hello again, Renata! Take a look at National park and Talk:Protected area, and see if you agree. Guy 07:15 Oct 8, 2002 (UTC)