Talk:Virginia Military Institute

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Pulitzer Prize

The article states VMI alumni have won the Pulitzer Prize. "VMI's graduates include a Secretary of State, Nobel Prize winners, Pulitzer Prize winners, Rhodes Scholars, U.S. Senators and Representatives, College and University Presidents, and CEOs. Some examples:" Which famous alumni won the Pulitzer Prize?

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Spring 2005 – August 8, 2005 Hal Jespersen 00:27, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

African-American Cadets

Anyone have more information on the first African-American cadets at VMI? All we have in the article now is that one ore more graduated from VMI in 1968. Any names, background on the the first to enroll? Thanks, Rillian 02:02, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Ratline article

Suggest we merge the Ratline Ratline article into the Student life section of this article. The Ratline article by itself doesn't seem to be Wikipedia worthy and other schools have a more detailed student life section than this current article. Rillian 02:45, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good example of how merging can give character and depth to articles. What would the objections be? (We'll know soon enough.) --Wetman 02:49, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I object to Rillian and his posse of nerds messing with this article any more. Please spend time on another page, you bunch of computer dorks, and for goodness sake, get a life. Signed, Nate Nate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.26.176.34 (talk) 22:29, 22 August 2005

(This is the vandal that is deleting picture captions at this entry.) --Wetman 03:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

(I'm just trying to get you freaking geeks to leave this page alone!! And by the way, you guys are the vandals!) --Nate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.26.176.34 (talk) 23:43, 22 August 2005

Ratline section expanded with merged content. Rillian 00:57, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

We have some good photos on the article, but none of them have sources or copyright information. If anyone knows the source, please add to the image page before a Wikipedia admin delete the files for potential copyright violations. Thanks Rillian 01:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Photos obtained from VMI's website Nate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.26.176.34 (talk) 00:40, 31 August 2005

Then we need to find replacements. Photos from VMI's web site would be copyrighted and not usable in Wikipedia. Any alumni out there with photos that they can release to the public domain? Rillian 00:32, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ACTUALLY, we do not need replacements. We may use the photos that are on display. Those photos were made open to the public. User:Nate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.26.176.34 (talk) 00:18, 1 September 2005

VMI's web pages are copyrighted and so is all the content on them with the notice "©Virginia Military Institute, Lexington, VA 24450-0304" on each page. Not sure what you mean by "made open to the public"? For use in Wikipedia, we need images that are not copyrighted. Rillian 21:54, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

VMI made the images available for public/non-profit use. These pictures are good to go As Is. Nate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.26.176.34 (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2005

That's good to hear, but where does it state that on the VMI web site? Please post a URL or other source. Thanks Rillian 19:16, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures are OK to use. You can call to verify if you wish, but we can use the pictures. Thanks, User:Nate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.26.176.34 (talk) 06:10, 5 September 2005

Classical?

Caption: "The Nation's Only Classical State Military College...VMI." "Classical" refers to an architectural style: the buildings are Gothic, by Alexander Jackson Davis, the most famous American architect of his generation, and added to and completed by Bertram Goodhue. If "classic" was intended, then I figure the operative word is "State": otherwise there's West Point and The Citadel. --Wetman 14:24, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would not use the citadel in the same sentence as West Point or VMI, as West Point and VMI have 100% military cadet students. There is no "civilian program" at VMI or any of the other Service Academies, therefore it is more accurate to say the citadel is more like Norwich, Texas A&M, or Va Tech (Corps of Cadets). Alum94 18:21, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is wrong information. The Citadel has no non cadet day students except for active duty Marine and Navy MECEP enlisted personnel. The College of Graduate Studies meets at night on campus a seprate college. Cadets only attend classes at The Citadel as day students. This is nothing like Norwich or Texas A&M. I only state this since we have some one giving out wrong info on the Citadel page. Best regards. GREAT SITE. REFERANCE THE FOLLOWING for good VMI history [CID '95:]

Long Gray Lines: The Southern Military School Tradition, 1839-1915 by Rod Andrew Jr.; and

The Young Lions: Confederate Cadets at War by James Lee Conrad

Classical in this sense means that the school is all military. In the middle and late 19th century, many southern states founded military colleges and military institutes based upon the model of VMI. These were classical military colleges with the purpose of producing officers and citizen-soldiers. Over the years, other State military colleges such as Texas A&M, The Citadel, Virginia Tech, etc. have enrolled both civilians and cadets. All students at VMI are cadets and thus, VMI is the Nation's Only Classical State Military College....Thanks for your interest, Wetman. Marshall3 15:32, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not to attempt to burst your bubble, but as a recent Citadel graduate, and having many friends at VMI, VMI and the Citadel are basically the exact same schools. And I can honestly say that citadel cadets see our graduate students, most of whom actually study at CofC, about as much as VMI cadets see W&L students. The Graduate program is its own animal, the only thing it has in common with The Citadel is that it uses some of our classrooms at night. You are right however about the presence of active duty marines, MECEPS, and now active duty midshipman, at The Citadel. This however is far from a disadvantage! Having active duty members in our classes and participating as members of the ROTC program allows for cadets to have exposure to the kind of real world knowledge they need to help them excel in their chosen fields, most ROTC programs, including VMI’s would kill to have this. And Since you seem to be someone who takes our friendly rivalry a little to seriously, I will just ask you to in the future not compare us with Norwich or Texas A&M , we have about as much in common with them as you do with West Point.

Not to burst your bubble, hard-charger, but I suggest you stick to your own page and leave VMI's site alone. The only people who would say VMI and your school are exactly the same are Citadel folks! You guys are constantly trying to latch on to VMI. You guys have far more in common with those other fine schools YOU mentioned than VMI. You are half civilian/half military, and your civilians play on your sports teams. Get a life and leave us alone...you guys are like dog poop we're trying to get off our shoes! And by the way, you need to find out what "active duty" means...you dumb-@$$!!! Just walk your own path and "lighten up Francis!"Marshall3 18:30, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]