User talk:Andjam/Archive1

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To do list

Things to do

Specific

~~Add to Fatwa the fatwa against the Nigerian journalist who made a "What would Mohammed do?"-style comment about the beauty contest being held there.~~ Added to List of famous fatwas, but Isioma Daniel deserves a page. 03:42, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Try to find out if "dog whistle politics" originated in Australia, and provide a link from the "wedge politics" article to the "dog whistle politics" article.
In the list of overseas Aussie detainees, clarify what happened with David Hicks. He was not captured as an alleged war criminal, but as an enemy combatant, who was later on charged with war crimes.
~~The French article on Xena Warrior Princess gives a hyperlink to the wrong Kevin Smith. 13:16, 13 October 2005 (UTC)~~ (Fixed as of 10:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC))
Propose an update of the logarithmic graph in Wikipedia:Modelling Wikipedia's growth#10 biggest Wikipedias 14:18, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Long term

~~The Australian women's skeleton team is definitely worth working on!~~ Created skeleton sport in Australia (not perfect, but a start) 10:49, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Not just them, everything about Australia at the Winter Olympics needs work! 03:44, 7 October 2005 (UTC) (Pages of interest: [1], [2], [3] )

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Yom Kippur War

You might be interested in the debate at Talk:Yom Kippur War. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:53, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Heh. By abstaining, I provided the most pro-Grace Note vote there. Andjam 01:21, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fatwas

Sure you have my cnscent to edit it even though it does say the same thing in the article. That a Jihadist has chosen the violent way to repond so he has nothiiing to offer but violent opinions! He does NOT have the credebilllity nor the credentials of a scholar adn would only repeat: Kill.... or Killl them in self defense, so again while technically it might qualify as a Fatwa, even though nobody asked him for it usually, there are 1.3 Billion Muslims on earth, some of them would atack his opinion or things like that. --The Brain 20:43, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kuril Islands

Hi. You reverted an edit to Declaration of war#Current declarations about Japan and Russia still technically being at war. As a result, I had a look at the history of the page, and I noticed that someone else had stated that the two were at war - but I wasn't knowingly restoring what they had said. I first heard of the dispute in a tv program last Tuesday (Foreign Correspondent: Kurils - Islands of Discontent).

The CIA world factbook for Japan and Russia describe them as technically at war with each other.

There may be the argument that Russia isn't the same as the USSR (was that your argument?), but as far as I know, it regards itself as the successor of the latter.

Thanks, Andjam 12:47, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I guess my argument is that, while they may not have ever signed a peace treaty, in reality, they aren't in a state of war anymore; a political/diplomatic land dispute over some islands isn't a war. I don't know if the countries themselves consider themselves in a state of war (although I would suppose not); if they don't, I don't think there should be any mention of them as a "Current declaration." Do you agree? I'm not sure where to find that information, though. —Cleared as filed. 12:55, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous editor

I'll get in touch with him, and try to ameliorate the situation. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:57, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:List of Australians in international prisons

I have edited the discussion at Talk:List of Australians in international prisons as some of it was getting out of hand. Some of your comments may have been removed too. My edits were not directed at your comments and I apologise if I inadvertantly removed anything you feel should stay on the page. --User:AYArktos | Talk 21:19, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

E-mail

Andjam, could you possibly e-mail me, or send me an e-mail address where I could contact you? I'd appreciate it. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:00, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ski resort information

Well, Marsden has removed the information about ski resorts that you added to the article, and now he's threatened to report me for "vandalism" for restoring it to the article. Jayjg ^(talk) 08:04, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Andjam, if you were to put the ski resort information in the Golan Heights article, it would belong. In an article about the Occupied Territrories, it is cr**, and it is a minor edit to remove it. Do you think the ski resort is germane to the occupation? Then surely you can see why it doesn't belong. Jay restored it -- saying, by the way, that it was "as material as the water cr**," in case you're keeping track of who has called one of your contributions "cr**" -- because he wants to make a joke of the whole article. Why did you put it there in the first place? Marsden 14:10, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Last Warning"

But Andjam, your ski resort edit was cr**. That's not a personal attack; it's a simple statement of opinion, and one that I think almost all reasonable people will agree with. Please don't make empty threats against me ever again -- it makes you look desperate and stupid more than anything else. Marsden 15:03, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I'll begin a vandalism complaint against you if you re-insert the ski resort cr** without producing an independent source that names it as a consideration in Israel's continued occupation of the Golan Heights. Marsden 15:11, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please cease making ret***ed edits

The reason why CNN and BBC almost every day have news about things that have happened in the Occupied Territories or in the negotiations about them is not because of a ski resort in the Golan Heights. If it was not a ret***ed edit, you violated WP:POINT. In any case, the ski resort doesn’t belong in the article. --saxet 16:15, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Andjam, bouncing off your query to me the other day about sources, no, I don't know of anywhere on WP you can note a dodgy (or good) source, but it's a great idea, and a discussion about it has just started here. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:35, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Australia at the Winter Olympics

I honestly don't know. It's not an obvious one to be a featured article, but there's no inherent reason why not if it's good enough. It's a question of whether you can dig up enough material to make it an interesting read. If you feel you can, go for it. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 03:05, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Islam and Slavery

Is: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islam and Slavery Would you care to vote? Thx.--The Brain 10:46, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sooceroos

Ah, glad to see it hadn't been there too long, then. I very much appreciate that you went and found it--I wasn't really expecting anyone to do it, just musing out loud. Thanks a lot! - 211.28.82.103 08:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

vandal

User:Andjam and User:Olorin28 -- thank you for keeping an eye on vandalism recently on CAIR; much appriciated. All the best, Sdedeo 05:20, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Australia at the 2006 Winter Olympics

According to Special:Undelete/Australia at the 2006 Winter Olympics, the content of the article was "ggggg". I trust that there will be much more than that to say about Australia's performance at Torino when the time comes. Good luck with your work on Australia at the Winter Olympics, by the way. NatusRoma 06:42, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You too?

hey there Andjam,

yes it's weird however I think the one who vandalised my page did not do anything to you, as far as I know... but it was my first time! I just read the vandalisation in the history, that is just outrageous. Well forget those people, let's thank El C for keeping an eye for us :-)) cheers Gryffindor 13:17, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Channel 31

Hey Andjam, I noticed you reverted my edits to the Channel 31 page, claiming that I removed some relevant information. The only information I could find that was not replicated locally was either totally unverifiable or outdated. If there's some info in the history that you think could be salvaged, pls copy it into the relevant page. It's hard enough to work out which channel was being discussed -- which illustrates beautifully why the channels must be split into their own pages, as they are independent entities.

Again, if there's something I've overlooked, pls pull it out of history and dump it into the relevant page. (and, if possible, find a verifiable source). If you've got any concerns about this, pls contact me befor reverting.

Cheers mate, Jackk 03:12, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That information wasn't particularly accurate: as far as I'm aware, the ABA never cited any infringements by CTS. They did, however, receive a complaint from CTA in regards to CTS' conduct. As to whether that resulted in the license suspension was not asserted. The only source listed was "media watch", although the only story Media Watch ran in regards to CTS was about the original CTA complaint, which was made in late November, 2002. The actual decision to revoke CTS' temporary license was made in March 2004. The link between the two is tenuous at best: the previous statment on the Channel 31 page indicated some kind of causal relationship.

So, I've added a little background on the Television Sydney page, including a link to the ABA press release.

Hope that suffices.

Cheers, Jackk 17:06, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

**Andjam** is hereby awarded the Minor Barnstar for his ability to spot bad grammar and correct it. !מזל טוב

from Izehar

Thanks for pointing out that "apostrophe mistake" :-) Take a Barnstar! Izehar (talk) 22:06, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Wow, I've recently had my first user page vandalism, and now a barnstar! I'm so proud! BTW, what does the Hebrew translate to? Andjam 22:29, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I can translate that for you...it says "Mazel Tov" (literally "good luck" but you know, means congratulations). --MPerel ^{( talk | contrib)} 01:23, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies.

I remembered only one person who announced that he had followed the RfC in, left one comment, and then apparently thought better of it and left. I didn't realize that you also had followed the RfC in. Marsden 00:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Would you clarify that your comment to me had to do with the accuracy of my recounting of the dispute resolution, and not with my statement, which is very particularly something else? Marsden 01:02, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. There are two main sections that I wrote at the RfAr: one is the "Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried" section, which included my comment that the RfC brought in only one editor. This, you have told me, is incorrect, and I changed it.

However, the other section that I wrote was the "Statement by Marsden" section, which includes my statement of the dispute to be arbitrated. You have not indicated any disagreement with anything I wrote in this section, although I certainly encourage you to do so if you think I am in error.

The comment that you added reads, "I've questioned on Marsden's talk page the factual accuracy of his statement." This suggests that you have disagreed with the "Statement by Marsden" section as opposed to with the "Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried" section, which is not what you noted on my talk page.

It's not a big deal, but I think it would avoid some confusion if you made clear that you had questioned my dispute resolution history and not my statement of the conflict.

Marsden 01:23, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Marsden 02:42, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Andjam, my direct reason for filing the RfAr are exactly as stated: SlimVirgin abused her administrator's priviledges. I think El C, Jayjg, and Raul654 also abused their administrator's priviledges when they blocked me on other occasions, but between having an obvious case and the time to deal with it, SlimVirgin drew the short straw with me.

Beyond the direct reason, however, are a couple of other things. In the first place, some people -- and SlimVirgin possibly foremost among them -- have adopted an elitist attitude about Wikipedia, including freely throwing about epithets and then claiming that the same words when used against them or their favored few ("editors in good standing") are personal attacks. And she has been, even if you can't see it, awfully abusive and harassing of me and of other newer editors who don't buy into her way of seeing things. The result of this is to make Wikipedia a closed project, where its systemic biases -- whether pro-Israeli or whatever -- get re-inforced rather than challenged and corrected.

Basically, though, I am giving Wikipedia an ultimate opportunity to demonstrate what it is about: I don't see that there's very much room for interpretation in the arbitration, and if the Arbitration Committee screws it up anyway, that would demonstrate to me that there's no real hope for Wikipedia.

Marsden 16:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

English translation from Italian

Andjam - I've now done about three quarters of the article Magnetotactic bacteria - and to be honest, I've almost had enough of it. It was an absolutely crazy thing to undertake - anyway, how about having a read of what's there - do whatever you think is correct - I need a long break from it and my colleagues in scn.wiki are probably wondering where the hell I ended up. Let me know how you get on - ciao and thanks again (in anticipation). ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 11:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that! I also left a message on the Italian Village Pump, needless to say there have been no takers to date. I figure that someone who knows something about it will eventually stumble across it and can double check some of the technical aspects (or more accurately, my inept translations of some of the technical aspects). ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 21:49, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfAr for AustinKnight

Your input would be appreciated.[4]Cognos 14:57, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oops...

... sorry about that Andjam! - Ta bu shi da yu 13:25, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry Packer

I do actually. The concern is that people will view him with rose coloured glasses, just like they did with Joh Bjelke-Petersen. The fact is that he did do good things but in part this was at the expense of the Australian taxpayer. And, why do you care anyway? Dankru 02:19, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I note what you're saying. I am being quite restrained in all honesty! If it was on his article page then obviously it should be removed but talk pages are more liberal to me. Dankru 03:05, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Solifugae edit added to BJAODN

why can't all vandals be so entertaining? :) --Duk 16:13, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Janine Shepherd

No clue, I'm sorry. I had quite a bit of trouble putting that together, as so much of the search results are crap produced either by people trying to sell her books or people trying to sell tickets to her public speaking engagements. I'll have a look on Factiva in a minute, but I doubt I'll turn up any results, as the depth of articles gets a bit thin before about 1990. It may be worth trying to get your hands on her books - I'm sure Never Tell Me Never would have at least something about her prior career, which is more than we'll find online. Ambi 09:04, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gah. I was right about Factiva - nothing at all before 1988, and nothing I could see giving any details about her competitions beforehand. Ambi 09:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Womens Marathon pic

The womens marathon pic is I believe in the common domain. The pic was taken in 2002. Does this help? Rhyddfrydol 15:35, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OpenBSD

I replied to, and made some changes to the article based on, your comments on the talk page . Please let me know if they resolve your problems or if you have any further comments. NicM 11:56, 7 January 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Re:Lake Jindabyne

I live in Sydney, so I can't help you there. Just post it up onto Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board - I'm sure someone there will be able to help you. enochlau (talk) 08:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re: John Howard

I noticed you reverted the citation needed thingo which is fair enough. Given that to prove the somewhat bleeding obvious is nearly as hard as proving a negative can you wait a bit before striking out the alleged PoV statement?

Also at the risk of entering into a bitter ploemic (which I certainly don't want to do) I would be interested to know exactly what your objection is to the statement that in the 1960s he was a supporter of both NS and Aust's participation in the Vn War. I don't see how it could have been otherwise. Albatross2147 05:24, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- I can see what you are getting at. You are probably being overly sensitive on this point but I agree that erring on the side of caution in all such matters benefits Wp generally. Would I be right that an acceptable citation would be enough to let the statement stand? Albatross2147 07:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]