Talk:List of Earth starships in Stargate

The Daedalus will have a bigger role on Stargate Atlantis than the Prometheus on Stargate SG-1, so I think this separate Daedalus page should be kept and not merged. WayneC

I concur. The "story", so to speak, of the ship will certainly develope seperately. -b 03:50, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Korelev

Far as I'm aware nothing is known of the Korelev other then it exists. Has it said that it is a Daedalus class?MarineCorps 19:48, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gateworld spoilers say it's Daedalus class 59.167.6.100 10:54, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only thing gateworld says on the Korelev is this"Carter radios the Ori ships in the hopes of contacting any survivors of the Korelev, an Earth ship apparently destroyed by the Ori (probably how Daniel wound up on board). Daniel finds his radio and responds, assuring Sam that he made it okay. He and Vala hope to zat Adria and capture her."MarineCorps 23:17, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have to visit the blogs of the executive producers, not just read the simple spoilers the site admins left in the episode guide. 59.167.6.100 01:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have. Even googled the word korelev for gateworld and the only thing it turned up was the spoilers in the episode guide. So unless you can provide a link I can only assume this is speculation at this point.MarineCorps 03:34, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Travel time

The article says 20 days, however in Season 2 Episode 2 of Atlantis (The Intruder), one of the opening comments is that it takes 18 days to travel from Earth to Atlantis. Does anyone wish to verify? Steven 03:32, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's 18 without ZPM, four with a ZPM. From Intruder. LD 01:47, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In the second episode of the 2nd season of Atlantis it was stated they were 18 days into their trip and that they had an additional 2 days before they reached Atlantis. This is a twenty day trip. Alyeska 05:31, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently people are still a little confused on the subject of travel time. The Daedalus was stated to be 18 days into the trip with an additional 2 days to Atlantis. This is a travel time of 20 days, not 18. Stop editing 20 back to 18, its a wrong number. Alyeska 03:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that people are still having a hard time figuring out the travel times. I've had to correct it once again. The travel time between Atlantis and Earth is 20 days, not 18. The episode in question had Daedalus 18 days from Earth, but still another 2 to get to Atlantis. Alyeska 21:21, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's amazing that the number of times they say, both on Earth and Atlantis that the travel time is 18 days. The number in "Intruder" may have been a mistake in the script. in "Ripple Effect", "Prometheus Unbound" and "Critical Mass" the trip takes 18 days, or is the older BC-303 faster then it's sucessor? 59.167.6.100 01:10, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prometheus Unbound said it would take about a month. In in the SG1 episode with the multiple SG1 teams, Prometheus was said to take 3 weeks to reach Atlantis. The 18 day figure comes purely from Intruder. The actual time length is 20 days, and comments of three weeks travel time fits 20 days. 18 days would be only two and a half weeks. Alyeska 05:07, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

This article needs to be renamed either Daedalus class battle cruiser or Daedalus (Stargate).
—wwoods 18:05, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is bizarre. If you watch the scene in the Odyssey 's briefing room in Off the Grid, the screen in the background clearly states: Deep Space Carrier. Since Odyssey and Daedalus seem to be identical, should we rename it Daedalus-class carrier? LD 16:48, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. We should rename the article to Daedalus-class Deep Space Carrier according to the what we saw in Off the Grid --Will74205 03:15, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plural title

I know it's picky, but the article talks about /plural/ battlecruisers, doesn't it? -Cws125 09:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It talks about plural battlecruisers, yes, but the title is still supposed to be singular. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals): "In general only create page titles that are in the singular, unless that term is always in a plural form in English (such as scissors)." Taking a quick look through Category:Ship classes, I don't see a single one of them that uses a plural title so singular is also preferred simply based on precedent. I'm moving the article back to singular again. Bryan 00:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BC-02

In the interests of verifiability would someone mind pointing to the screenshot that shows the BC-02 hull number? AlistairMcMillan 20:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that original research? At least you considered it original research when related to Trek. Alyeska 21:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to start another argument here, but you left "Screen shot gives the Daedalus a hull number of BC-02" in an edit comment, if that is the souce then you should link to it somewhere so that if someone disputes your edit they can see where you got the number from. IMHO If the hull number was clearly shown in big clear lettering on screen, if one hundred people could all look at the screenshot and come up with the same number, then it isn't original research. If however it is blurry and indistinct, and it is likely that different people might see different lettering, then that is original research. Which is what I've been trying to explain all along on other Talk pages. Everyone looks at it, comes up with the same result == not original research. Everyone looks at it, comes up with different results == original research. AlistairMcMillan 17:18, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where on Earth did you get these stats from?

"The Prometheus general design is that of a battlecruiser, a defensive/offensive craft designed to provide fire support in a space combat situation, trading shots with Goa'uld spacecraft. The Daedelus, however, is designed more as a multi-role carrier/battlecruiser, carrying 16 F-302 space-fighters as well as the capability for over 400 soldiers. While it is a carrier structure it is capable of standing up to multiple Wraith Hive Ships or Goa'uld motherships." —Where, pray tell, did THIS come from? I've never heard it anywhere on the show. LD 02:24, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not only is it considered logical just by watching the two vessels in action. But the producers of the show have said in blogs and in interviews why the Prometheus and the Daedelus are different (Ie: Prometheus carries 2 F-302s and the Daedalus carries 16). And dont forget that Canada has already season the rest of the second season of Atlantis. Daedalus is shipping troops to and from Atlantis in "Inferno" as well as delivering more F-302s. - 59.167.6.100 01:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is intresting: the length and width are the same (as those of Prometheus), and the Prometheus is relatively taller (just looking at pictures: its got a lot less width for its height). So if the stats are accurate, the Daedalus is a smaller ship with more armaments and more cargo capabilities. Just something to think about :) ----DUCK

The Prometheus had five 302s in Ethon. As for "just logical", try not to use this again, on account of Wikipedia:No original research. Unless it explicitly says something on the show, or if it would be impossible for things to be any other way, it's sort of hard to justify. LD 18:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oydssey

The Oydssey is taking the place of Prometheus on SG-1, it's going to be appearing a lot more regularly in the SG-1 series during the 10th season, perhaps it should get it's own page? At the very least, it merits it's own section away from Korelev - Count23 12:19, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And it has a powered captains chair. :P Shogun 12:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, I have two things to say:

Spell it right. It's "Odyssey". "Oydessey" spells "Oi-de-see".
It now has the "USS" ship prefix; look at Emerson's badge in Off the Grid. Quite frankly, I would prefer it to be "USIS", (United States Interstellar Ship).LD 17:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I noticed on the ships seal it said the Odyssey was a space carrier not a battle cruiser.24.198.200.173 17:52, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did, too: see above, under "Article name". LD 00:01, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know how it's spelt, i was in a hurry last night and jumped some letters together. I also noticed the USS, but i was convinced that people would change it to "USAF" and make up some crap about it being a mislabeled prop or something. HOWEVER, you all have missed the point of this discussion section, RE-READ what i wrote, and then reply. - 59.167.43.113 03:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]