Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erik Eastaugh
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Non notable vanity page. OCNative 00:01, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. No debate. Dr Debug (Talk) 00:19, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.
Dustimagic! (talk/contribs) 00:23, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - in the world of debate, winning the (international) Worlds is notable. —ERcheck @ 00:26, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per others. Arbustoo 00:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per ERcheck. Makemi 01:32, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. No evidence this is a vanity page; original author has worked on a slew of articles in the general debating field. It's really inappropriate to see the "vanity" label so capriciously thrown around in disputes without even a minimal effort to verify it. If the championship is notable enough to deserve its own article, it's hard to make a case that champions aren't notable. Monicasdude 01:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- The original author also has already had several articles deleted, including Robert Silver, Casey Halladay, and Brent Patterson. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Robert Silver, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Casey Halladay, and Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Brent Patterson. OCNative 08:18, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep winner of internationally recognised contest. Garglebutt / (talk) 02:18, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- delete 338 google results. That is not enough verifiable info for an article. Highly suspiscious, this is probably vanity. Lotsofissues 02:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - It is not the world championships - It only applies to university students. I wonder what would happen if someone put up bios for everybody who won a gold medal at the University Games (sport). The other thing which concerns me is that it only applies to the English speaking world, eg AUS, USA, UK and CAN (compare to International Mathematics Olympiad, Physics, etc, where there are many countries, and especially communist countries and some others, where the education dept of the government will separate talented students into separate maths/science academies for years and get professors to train them - are they eligible, maybe I should put their articles also; this is a much higher standard of scrutiny/pressure than a university club). I'm also less inclined to keep because debating is by nature extremely subjective, so that it is harder to extablish credibility (ie. skill). Blnguyen 02:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, it looks quite internatinal to me from looking at the page - teams from South Africa, Thailand, Barbados, Israel, and Bosnia have participated. You're disinclined because debating is subjective?! So is figure skating and hundreds of other activities, but that's no reason to not have an article on people who have won notable events. Turnstep 04:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- OK, that's fine, so what do people think if I put up articles on Olympiad winners??Blnguyen 04:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, it looks quite internatinal to me from looking at the page - teams from South Africa, Thailand, Barbados, Israel, and Bosnia have participated. You're disinclined because debating is subjective?! So is figure skating and hundreds of other activities, but that's no reason to not have an article on people who have won notable events. Turnstep 04:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Monicasdude. Please don't use the "vanity" tag without evidence. Also, while Google hits are useful, they aren't a be-all-and-end-all test for notability. Camillus (talk) 02:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete' I don't think it's vanity, but I don't think it's notable either. --† Ðy§ep§ion † Speak your mind 02:44, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Weak keep per Garglebutt. Mikker ... 03:05, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Garglebutt. --ZsinjTalk 03:20, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Weak Keep per User:Garglebutt.,,,,,Ariele 03:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as notable accomplishment. There is only one winning team per year. Turnstep 04:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Turnstep. Siva1979 05:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. If Wikipedia can include anime, then it can certainly include a debate champion. Don't you think? Logophile 06:31, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per Ðy§ep§ion. Master and Commander 08:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per † Ðy§ep§ion †. Alternatively, smerge just his name to the World Universities Debating Championship#Past hosts and champions, which could be done for all the winning universities. Zunaid 09:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep notable achievement. -- Fenster 16:20, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Delete per Blnguyen. Awards in colleigate debate are great on a résumé, but are hardly encyclopedic. Wiki4Life 04:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. Achievements are very notable in their sphere. Note also that Master and Commander is an alleged sockpuppet and vandal on Matthew Vassar (see edit history) and Wiki4Life is new handle created to vote on two debating related VfD pages (i.e. also a sockpuppet, probably of the same user, as you see the vote wording is almost identical) -- TrinityC 05:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- If you go to my talk page User talk:Master and Commander, you will see that TrinityC has already been warned by Syrthiss "about making accusations of sockpuppetry" about me. I am not the Matthew Vassar vandal; all I did was remove twice remove boxes that TrinityC invented, which were not in accordance with wikipedia rules. Syrthiss also advised TrinityC "against placing their own made up vandalism notice" on the article. TrinityC is the only person who has accused me of sockpuppetry and vandalism. Please do not make false accusations about me. Furthermore, I am not User:Wiki4Life, and I do not see how my three word vote is almost identical to Wiki4Life's. There are a number of 3-word votes that are identically worded, but they are not accused of sockpuppetry; the reason for this is that it's standard format for a vote. Again, I ask you TrinityC to stop making accusations against me, especially in light of the warning you already received about this. Thank you. Master and Commander 11:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete per nom. Ardenn 06:06, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. Debating achievements are encylopedic, and additional biographical details and achievements warrant entry. -- BfDx 06:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- There's already been a precedent established that university debaters are not notable enough for Wikipedia entries per se (see, frex, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Ranjan Agarwal, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jason Brent, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Kevin Massie, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Brent Patterson, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Casey Halladay.) I haven't seen a convincing argument here to change that precedent. Delete. Bearcat 09:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per the first sentence of the article. May need a slight rewrite to avoid peacock terms. Stifle 11:45, 14 February 2006 (UTC)