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Articles on Judaism

  • Ezra Wax is vandlaising Relationship between segments of Judaism -- 137.111.13.32 22:05 Oct 31, 2002 (UTC)
    • Please indicate how it's "vandalism", or just post your complaints to the Wikipedia:annoying users page. This page is not for Edit Wars or Neutrality disputes. --Ed Poor 22:10 Oct 31, 2002 (UTC) (one of several syops)
      • He keeps on deleting the whole article, wiping it clean (see that page's history). If he doesn't agree with its content, he can try to improve it, but he shouldn't be deleting everything, or replacing it all with basically nothing. He should either make constructive changes or discuss the issue on Talk: --- 137.111.13.32 22:14 Oct 31, 2002 (UTC)

Jehovah's Witnesses

  • This user: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Clutch Keeps on vandalizing the entry on Jehovah's Witnesses. He keeps censoring the article, and forbids the rest of us from describing this religion. He appears to be a pro-JW proselytizer, who knows that Christians find his religion to be non-Christians. Therefore, despite the clear consensus of the entire Wikipedia community that has worked on this article, he single-handedly keeps censoring information on this group, to falsely make it appear to be a mainstream Christian denomination. None of us have been able to reason with him. Sometimes he censors words, othertimes whole paragraphs. His goal appears to be to remove NPOV to make Wikipedia safe for proselytizing.
What Clutch has done is no worse than what you did to predestination. Some of your changes there appear entirely without merit.
Clutch, like most contributors, responds to kindness and reason. If you disagree with his edits, please explain why in detail, on the talk page for that purpose.
Do not misuse the vandalism page, or you could be banned for vandalism. Keep it on talk. First and last warning. --Ed Poor 21:56 Oct 24, 2002 (UTC)

Ed, if misusing the vandalism page was grounds for banning people, many of our contributors would be gone. Try to apply kindness and reason to both sides of an edit war. ;-) -- Stephen Gilbert 02:50 Oct 25, 2002 (UTC)

Hmm, kindness and reason -- where have I heard that before? Sounds like something I might have said myself... --Ed Poor 15:21 Oct 25, 2002 (UTC)

Columbus

I do not see how this is vandalism. The man went by Cristóbal Colón and appears to have been born as Christofor Colon. One of these two names is obviously what should be used. Not some bastardized name. Brion seems to feel that we should Angloize all foreign names-that is a pretty stupid idea.

Actually, while your changes are not vandalism, Brion is correct here. In English, "Cristóbal Colón" is called "Christopher Columbus". This is not a basterdisation -- its the English language. In fact, even the proper noun "español" has been changed to "Spanish" in English. Nobody would argue that this is in any way "unethical". The article should be titled "Christopher Columbus" in the english version and perhaps "Cristóbal Colón" in the Spanish version only.
(Rational people are welcome to read and contribute to Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (anglicization).) LDC has now banned Lir for a range of poor behavior. --Brion 04:55 Oct 22, 2002 (UTC)
After a brief and rather civilized discussion on the mailing list, it was decided to un-block Lir. --Ed Poor 18:31 Oct 22, 2002 (UTC)
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