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If I ask you a question, I will most likely monitor your talk page, however you may feel free to post in my talk page.
If you are bored, you can work on my TODO List.

FAQ

Q: What is the name of the bot?
A: Ortolan88 coined the name rambot (named after Ram-Man of course). The name is correctly spelled in all lowercase.
Q: There is a problem with the bot. How do I block it?
A: If it is running (it is not), I will post a blockable IP address here.
Q: Is your bot slowing down Wikipedia?
A: No it is not. A Wikipedia Administrator checked the logs and verified that it is not causing the server lag. More likely it is just heavy load on the foreign Wikipedia's. In fact, a few wikipedians performed an unofficial test to verify this (see the talk archive).
Q: Can I have the source code to your bot?
A: While I normally like to be open (otherwise I wouldn't be here), I don't want script kiddies ruining our experience here. Besides, an intelligent well-meaning programmer can easily duplicate the work with little effort.
Q: I hate bots, what do I do?
A: You're not the only one! See Wikipedia:Bots
Q: What happened to the old talk?
A: All old messages are in User talk:Ram-Man/archive.

How about disambiguating "High Point" while you're at it? There's one in North Carolina that doesn't have an article yet, but the two in Florida and the one in North Carolina are enough to at least start a page, I think. -- isis 16:32 Oct 28, 2002 (UTC)

I am currently disambiguating the ones in just one state. The ones in different states I plan to do in the future. The reason I have not done that is because there is still a fair bit of work to do on cities (about 2,500 special cases need to be done manually or modified specially to be used by the bot). As such, I am not ready to start disambiguating the other entries. If I do, I have to manually add the ones we missed later, and I'd like to avoid that! -- Ram-Man

I have a general problem with phrasing: all those city/town entries you're dropping in say "xx.yy% have a woman whose husband does not live with her". That's not normal or clear English. "A woman whose husband does not live with her", to most people, is someone separated but not divorced. I think that this means something like "have a female head-of-household" and covers female couples, widowed/divorced/single mothers, and possibly roommate situations. But that demographic category probably does not include (for example) my friend who is currently separated but not yet divorced from her husband, and living with a new lover, though she is in fact a woman whose husband does not live with her. Vicki Rosenzweig

I took (roughly) the wording used by the Census Bureau. You could look closely at their statistics to see what that number more accurately means if you'd like. I could also add it to the list of things to do. The values could be automatically updated to reflect a new wording if a better one is decided on. -- Ram-Man

Is Little Britian Township spelled right? It keeps showing up on the mispeeling list, and the title does not match the first line. -phma

Britain is the correct spelling. I fixed it. -- RM

Bonjour Ram-Man, I'm Aoineko from the french Wikipedia. We are interest in create french town articles with automatic process. I have already many idear to how to do that, but it may be great if you are agree to share your experience. If you are, please contact me : aoineko(a)noos.fr . Aoineko


Hey, the Goshen, Indiana article had a typo. It said

Goshen, Indiana is a town of 29,383 people (As of the 2000 census]])

I deleted the extra brackets around census, and it doesn't look like your bot is doing it to all the articles, so maybe it was just the one. I don't think a search for "census]]" goes quite right, so I'm not sure if it's even possible to look for others. Tokerboy 02:56 Nov 1, 2002 (UTC)


I'll just monitor playing Chess with Lir at the talk page.


Im pretty sure you should have been able to win that game. Lir 01:30 Nov 19, 2002 (UTC)

MarderIII: b4 d5 d4 Bf5 e3 e6 a3 Nf6 c4 Nbd7 c5 a5 b5 Qe7 Nc3 e5 c6 bxc6 bxc6 Nb6

 dxe Qxe5 Nb5 O-O-O Bd2 d4 Nf3 Qc5 Nfxd4 Ne4 

zeblk: you're lost MarderIII: i am? zeblk: i put it in crafty MarderIII: who am I/ MarderIII: ? zeblk: i don't remember MarderIII: im white MarderIII: i should have lost zeblk: the score was like -2.04 MarderIII: black is winning? zeblk: yeah

since then he has been idle-i donnoLir 02:13 Nov 19, 2002 (UTC)

Probably missing something.... i guess I'm just in a bad mood...


Ram-Man, Cedar Grove, New Jersey and Cedar Grove Township, New Jersey are identical articles referring to the same entity. Any preference as to which should be kept and which should be a redirect? I THINK there is an additional locality called Cedar Grove in southern NJ but I can't seem to find evidence of this on the internet, it may perhaps be smaller than a township. -- Someone else 03:06 Nov 19, 2002 (UTC)

I have no preference. I am not a local, so I don't know what it normally goes by. The "Township" name may be the official legal term, so maybe that would be the best choice. -- RM
Sounds good, if someone finds another Cedar Grove in NJ then Cedar Grove, New Jersey can become a disambiguation page. -- Someone else

If your opponent is too cranky to hide hide chess moves, there's no reason why you shouldn't. I'll defend the rambot forever, but this is just bad manners. (And why play chess here anyway?)Ortolan88

I should have signed it. That was *me* who was cranky. Busy day at work ;-) Thanks for the support, but nothing is amiss here. Why play chess here? Because we can. It gives little breaks between the actual work and it doesn't hurt anyone. -- RM

If you or your opponent don't mark the chess moves as Minor Edits, then they go in the Recent Changes page of all of us who ask that Minor Edits not be displayed. So, it hurts me, because I only look at the last 200 changes and for every one that is a chess move I have missed a possibly interesting or significant edit. For example, since I am marking this change as minor, most people don't even know I am talking to you. I asked her to stop it and she just went right ahead cluttering up the Recent Changes page. Ortolan88

"Doesn't hurt anyone" is relative to what others think, no? I personally don't really care that you are playing chess on Wikipedia but several others do and have asked you to either stop or at least mark your edits as minor. There is no reason why you should expect to use Wikipedia for any and all personal uses. Also, recent changes pollution is a big deal for people. Believe it or not but back in July I actually revieved each day's Recent Changes. Of course back then there were less than a 1000 edits a day. Now there are well over 4,000 edits a day and this type of review is impossible, so I don't try. Others are trying to keep Recent Changes useful for hourly checks and it is here that Recent Changes pollution comes into play. --mav

Minor changes are easy. I can do that. Don't know why I didn't already! -- RM


http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lir/Chess


RM - This belongs on the Jesus Christ talk page, but the talk page there is so long my browser will lose half of it if I try to edit it (sorry). But no, "Jacob son of Joseph" is not an error...The original reads "Yaaqov bar Yosef" which is "Jacob son of Joseph". The initial reports "helpfully" translated "Jacob" to "James", probably because that's how the brother of Jesus is best known in English, and the translator wanted to enhance that association. -- Someone else 04:15 Nov 23, 2002 (UTC)


RM, is it OK for me to use your real name on the Wikipedia page? It looks odd to only have a user nick in the history section of an encyclopedia article. If this is OK, would you prefer your name linked like this Derek Ramsey or something like this Derek Ramsey (user:Ram Man)? --mav